User talk:EvergreenFir

Message from Khmlight3

Hi i will stop editing the page dont be mean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khmlight3 (talk • contribs)

Pings FYI

You forgot to sign your ping here, so it won't work. — Strongjam (talk) 21:01, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Had no idea I had to sign it! Thanks for the info! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 21:03, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Strongjam: That actually explains a lot... jeez.. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 21:04, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Yeah it can cause a lot of confusion! Someone should write an edit-filter rule that warns you if you try to use a ping-template and don't sign! Strongjam (talk) 21:08, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Cool GIftson.J (talk) 16:07, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

The Amazing World of Gumball episode Season 3 'The Money'?

Why did you delete a writer from the Gumball episode "The Money" at 01.21 28th July 2015? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dashdotdash (talk • contribs) 12:12, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Dashdotdash: I can find nothing that confirms this information. I am going to download the episode tonight and look at the credits. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:40, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Plazat and Roosh V

The user Plazat seems to be here only to add negative content to the article Roosh V. What action would be best (if any)? —George8211 / T 16:00, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Qadiani

Hi Evergreen, I don't think that a religious slur Qadiani should be used in the lede, much like the N word shouldn't be used in related articles.--Peaceworld 18:22, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Peaceworld111: Thank you for catching that. I was entirely unaware that it was a slur. Thank you for removing it. You might want to discuss it with the user who added it too. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 18:25, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Gumball - the Money - you are mistaken.

You are wrong. A name was omitted on their European first broadcast and the episode writing credits were corrected for the US broadcast. An apology is due from you and you must not do it again. It is you who is unknowingly vandalising the information. My information comes from the Gumball production company and The Cartoon Network. I understood all the wrong versions had been pulled so I'm intrigued to know where you are 'downloading' this version from. Please name your source. Dashdotdash (talk) 02:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@Dashdotdash: My source was a rip of the episode found online. But WP:BURDEN is on you to provide a source to support your claim. The person is not mentioned anywhere on the internet or on any freely available versions of the episode i could find. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 02:38, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir That's worrying. The Cartoon Network said it had been corrected worldwide now. I think the burden, by Wiki's own rules, was actually on you to prove your list was correct as you were the one proposing an incorrect writing credit list in the first place, surely? Dashdotdash (talk) 03:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm guessing the bootleg version was from the initial airing. The weird thing with lists of episodes is we don't give explicit sources. The source is assumed to be the episode itself. And given that the majority of bootleg versions didn't include that name, it wasn't in the wikipedia list. I think we might end up making a note that there discrepancies in the airings. I've got to go to sleep soon so might be resolved by tomorrow. For now it's in the list. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 03:17, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

LGBT symbols

Hi there, you overturned a reversion I made. I reverted for two reasons: the rationale for removing content was not properly thought out, and the removed content was longstanding. I've just checked, and it was added on 2 January 2008. I don't think that removing it can be justified as coat racking, it's been there for most of the time the article has existed. I don't want to be part of an edit war, but I invite you to reconsider your deletion of the content.Thanks. Trankuility (talk) 14:09, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@Trankuility: Wow, okay, 7 years is quite a while. I'll revert and start discussion. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 14:50, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Message from Plazat

Is it worth losing your wikipedia editor account, because you are copying and pasting false information about RooshV ? There are 16,550 signatures on the change petition against him, still you are editing the truth out, and you are lying straightforward that there are only 12500 signatures.

The others wikipedia editors are already talking about banning you for support [redacted] as Daryush Valizadeh was proven to be by the Anti Defamation League and SPLC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plazat (talk • contribs) 16:32, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@Plazat: Who is talking about banning me? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:35, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Razat should be reported.--Peaceworld 16:42, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Already filed an ANI. :) EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

About Albino alligator: Claude

Hi EvergreenFir,
I've declined the speedy deletion of that article. Unlike an article about, say, my tortoiseshell kitten Priscilla, Claude does seem to have at least some significance: it appears he is something of a tourist attraction! I'd start adding more to the article right now, but it's bicycle ride o'clock here on this cold winter afternoon. And the article title needs fixing, too.
Please feel free to take it to WP:AfD - I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.
Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 04:08, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@Shirt58: Thanks for the reply. I've dug a bit more and I think you're right... found another news article about him. I was hasty in doing the CSD. Thanks for reviewing it though! Just cleaning up the article (and moved it per TITLE) EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:09, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

I am glad the article could stay on! It seems like there is a sense of ownership for this article now however. Before I upload a picture I took of Claude, may I ask you to add it to article? --Wa17gs (talk) 19:25, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@Wa17gs: I have little interest in Claude so there' no WP:OWN going on. I just took the time to clean up the article you created to confirm with the manual of style and to properly cite things. Only intending to help. As for the image, there's honestly not a ton of room in the article currently for more images and the one in the infobox is a really good, clear image of him (and a featured image too boot). This is my opinion of course, so take it for what it's worth (usually about 2 cents). (PS - adding it to this category on Commons might be awesome though). EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 02:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

List of highest-grossing Indian films

I've put in a request to return the page to semi-protection. Frankly, I wish we could do the same thing to the talk page of the article. I know assume good faith, but the whole thing is gone beyond ludicrous. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - General Health ‖ 17:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ebyabe: Thank you! I actually just asked about that here. My concern is someone will complain about 3RR since most of this is not obvious vandalism. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:31, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Move review refactoring

I'm extremely sorry about that, and I'm not sure how it happened; I already told my text replacer not to operate at wikipedia.org, so I'll investigate. That was unintentional and I apologize. Red Slash 17:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Figured out the error, fixed it, won't happen again. Sorry, again. Red Slash 17:35, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

@Red Slash: Ah, a text replacer... was wondering how/why that occurred. Lol. Makes sense. No worries. Thanks for fixing it. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:41, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:LGBT rights opposition

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:LGBT rights opposition. Legobot (talk) 00:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Just for the record

You characterized both me and Doc9871 as editwarring, but I undid Doc9871's out-of-process revert, one time only, because it's improper do this during the endorse/overturn discussion about that change by the closer. He did it after being warned by an admin such moves would be seen as disruptive, and he did it again, after being told it was, and then did it yet again after a third party also restored the closer's version. I don't care what specific version of the content is in there right now, despite having written some of one version (my expectation was that there'd be a move discussion after the RM, not that my draft would be used as part of the close).  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  11:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Required notice; I quoted one or more of your diffs

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding incivility and related user behaviors. The thread is Threats, aspersion-casting, etc. by Doc9871.The discussion is about the topic Wikipedia:DIVA. Thank you.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  12:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For all your wonderful work in many areas. —МандичкаYO 😜 19:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

@Wikimandia: Thank you so much! :D This means a lot to me! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:41, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Warning

I appreciate it. And thank you for not suspending me outright, I'm still learning how to play this game. :-) Rafe87 (talk) 23:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

@Rafe87: Lol he ain't an admin he just talks like he one. Couldn't ban u if he wanted to. U doin just fine dont pay him no mind. 177.154.145.106 (talk) 03:05, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Correct that I'm not an admin, but would do well to heed the warning. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 03:07, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

See there he go frontin. Psssh 177.154.145.106 (talk) 03:11, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Faulty Reference

That website given as a reference only lists tv shows up to two weeks/13 days in advance. That's why I kept reverting those edits.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

@Apokryltaros: Just posted on the article talk page. Continue there? Still confused. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 03:22, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: I'm doubting that reference. I can see the Episode Guide, but it's still unofficial. I don't see how Disney would air two Gravity Falls episodes in the same day, and they've also revealed other claims like saying that Rock of Sages will air on September 12, and that listing later got removed. They also claimed two Wander Over Yonder episodes would air later in September, that listing got removed as well. We can't be sure about the Gravity Falls listings. -- EvilLair (✉ | c) 03:29, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

@EvilLair: Glad someone else can see it at least :) I'm not too confident in it but we typically trust zap2it right? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 03:34, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Yeah, I guess, since we've trusted MSN listings in the past (before it switched its layout, thus becoming less useful, but I heard it's sometimes unreliable). I think we should rather use this and this separately as better references. - EvilLair (✉ | c) 03:54, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

The separate refs is a good idea to me. Any opinion Apokryltaros? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 03:56, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

That would be better. Also, I can not move beyond August 25 whenever I go to zapit.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:58, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

How strange. The refresh didn't work? Well, EvilLair, you want to do the honors? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I'll try. - EvilLair (✉ | c) 04:09, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Jazz Jennings

What makes Jazz Jennings so special? Lots of Celebrities use pseudonyms, and their actual names are usually listed on their Wikipedia page. If you are going to insist on removing Jazz Jennings' real surname, then we need to remove birth names from all Celebrity pages.JessicaFaith84 (talk) 15:14, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

She's a minor and she's trans. The family appears to have taken efforts to keep their family surname private. I'll start a discussion on WP:BLPN. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:16, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Just because they have taken efforts to hide the information, does not mean it is hidden! I have several more sources I could cite beside the two I did. I thought the whole point of Wikipedia was to report totally and completely factual information. I believe all Wikipedia articles must be 110% transparent, regardless of the subject matterJessicaFaith84 (talk) 15:19, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not indiscriminately post information. It is not a tabloid. Please see, for example, WP:BLPPRIVACY. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Hooray for Bollywood

It's nice to see familiar editors editing Bollywood articles. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:31, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: not sure how I got involved on those pages since I know nothing about them. :) EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

That's how I got involved in them! I know nothing about them either! What's important to know is that corruption is everywhere. People will inflate box office values or deflate them depending on their agenda. There is no official box office tracking—the various publications have to estimate, which makes it a little irritating when people keep fishing for the latest, higher value. It's no more correct than any of the other values. TheRedPenOfDoom once pointed out that The Times of India once stopped reporting on collections because of the corruption. Let's see, what else would I recommend... Oh, watch out for copy/pasting, and if anyone describes a film as "Blockbuster status" or "Super-hit status" or "Verdict: Failure", kick that person directly in the nuts. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:46, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Lol okay will do! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:57, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

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"Sources really should be inline since the rest of the article is that way"

hello;

thank-you for inserting yourself into the discussion.

please refer me to the relevant WIKIPEDIA POLICY for deleting legitimate references from an article? "because they really should be in line"

i understand that it is preferred that ALL material on articles should be neatly bound up with tidy in-line references, but there is NO wikipedia policy to permit the removal of material that IS referenced, OR to remove references, simply because the inline cites are not complete.

Lx 121 (talk) 04:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

@Lx 121: You're welcome. I love inserting myself. The issue is formatting. See WP:SOURCES. Also, a number of the sources you gave were not WP:RS. Last, it's perfectly fine to revert "legitimate references" if there's no consensus for the material. See WP:BRD and WP:CON. I hope you calm down and discuss instead of treating it like a WP:BATTLEGROUND. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:36, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

& with all due respect i'm not the one who has made this a "battleground". this problem began with you & your friend's removal of legitimate, sourced material from an article, in VIOLATION of wikipedia policy. Lx 121 (talk) 04:51, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

{{tq}you & your friend's}}... no. That article has been on my watchlist a while and I got tired of seeing the dispute so I "inserted myself". EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:53, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

so, link me to the relevant policies, please? :) because i see NOTHING in the link you've provided, that justifies this action. Lx 121 (talk) 04:39, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps check out WP:IDHT. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:40, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

if you want to make out a case that my adding verifiable, referenced material to an article, then protesting its inapropriate remove constitutes "disruptive editing, then BRING IT ON. if you can win that one, before a full & complete review process, i shall walk away from wikipedia & never return. ^__^ Lx 121 (talk) 04:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

& here are the references in question, which ones don't you like? jstor, The Atlantic, columbia chronicle, thedailybeast, technicaonline, oxfordreference,...?

& neither "brd" NOR "con" is a license to remove verifiable" material from an article.

Lx 121 (talk) 04:44, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Everything with "opinion" in the url, Yahoo!Answers, Wordpress, and FreeThoughtBlogs are not reliable sources. And you are incorrect about CON and BRD. This won't end well if you insist on IDHT... You've been here long enough to know how things work. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

yes i have; you really wanna do a idht over this? let's do it! if this is where wikipedia is really at, i don't need to be here anymore :)

& are you then conceding that the other references are legit? because clearly then, they need to be re-added.

also, why do you keep "boxing" my references?

Lx 121 (talk) 04:55, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Get consensus for your bold edits before trying to edit war further. I haven't looked in depth at the others but half of your refs are garbage. (I forgot to add tumblr and empressblog to that list.) EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:58, 17 August 2015 (UTC)