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* OK, let's get to some specific edits so we can better understand your thought process. How is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roy_Spencer_%28scientist%29&diff=509446453&oldid=509445543 this edit] original research? How is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patrick_Michaels&diff=next&oldid=510226993 this] not a reliable source and in violation of BLP? --[[User:Jprg1966|<font color="crimson glory"><b>Jprg1966</b></font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Jprg1966|<font color="#003366"><sup>(talk)</sup></font>]] 23:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
* OK, let's get to some specific edits so we can better understand your thought process. How is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roy_Spencer_%28scientist%29&diff=509446453&oldid=509445543 this edit] original research? How is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patrick_Michaels&diff=next&oldid=510226993 this] not a reliable source and in violation of BLP? --[[User:Jprg1966|<font color="crimson glory"><b>Jprg1966</b></font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Jprg1966|<font color="#003366"><sup>(talk)</sup></font>]] 23:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
::First of all are you an administrator? As I only wish to make my case to Administrators. --[[User:JournalScholar|JournalScholar]] ([[User talk:JournalScholar#top|talk]]) 01:09, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roy_Spencer_%28scientist%29&diff=509446453&oldid=509445543] That edit is completely unsupported by any reliable source. I could not find a single reliable source to support any of the information in that paragraph and the sole source does not mention Spencer. Contentious and unsourced information can be immediately removed from any BLP see [[WP:BLP]]. Also this is Roy Spencer's BLP not a discussion of the UAH satellite temperature record which should take place on the appropriate Wikipedia page, [[UAH satellite temperature dataset]]. --[[User:JournalScholar|JournalScholar]] ([[User talk:JournalScholar#top|talk]]) 01:09, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patrick_Michaels&diff=next&oldid=510226993] Self published sources [[WP:SELFPUB]] (a congressional submission by Holdren) cannot be used in discussions of third parties - Pat Michaels. There is no editorial oversight of these submissions. I also believe it to be speculative gossip and not appropriate for a BLP. Holdren stated "He has published little if anything of distinction in the professional literature" - that is not something that can be factually determined. "being noted rather for his shrill op-ed pieces" - That is a personal attack and not appropriate for a BLP. Do you really believe that is encyclopedic content? --[[User:JournalScholar|JournalScholar]] ([[User talk:JournalScholar#top|talk]]) 01:09, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

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You are a STAR!

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You are doing great work here! This award for your efforts is long overdue. – Sir Lionel, EG(talk) 05:34, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Request reason:

Removing unverifiable and unsourced content in violation of WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:RS is not edit warring. I only make good faith edits, provide clear reasons for the edits and always use reliable sources. MastCell gave no warning before frivolously blocking my account.

Decline reason:

It is indeed edit warring, and you were warned here. Favonian (talk) 19:18, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Why are you claiming you weren't warned? I clearly warned you and you ignored the warning. Dougweller (talk) 19:22, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I also warned him not to edit war and to engage as well, on the talk page and on his user page. IRWolfie- (talk) 20:32, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you freely violate Wikipedia policy by including content that violates, WP:V, WP:RS and WP:NOR?--JournalScholar (talk) 02:12, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Which edit did I make that violated a Wikipedia policy? Apparently anyone can add unverifiable content and when contended does not have to provide a reliable source. --JournalScholar (talk) 02:08, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Request reason:

What edit did I make that violated Wikipedia policy? I would like the specific edit and how it violated policy. All my edits were for removal of unverifiable and unsourced content that violated WP:V, WP:RS or WP:NOR. These were all in good faith and I will hold any of my edits up for administrative review.

Decline reason:

Sorry, all of these are not subject to an exemption, see Wikipedia:Edit warring#3RR exemptions. Max Semenik (talk) 02:57, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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As I have told you several times; when you remove content and it is restored, do not remove it again; you need to give people time to get things sourced or fix any issues; go discuss it on the talk page per WP:BRD. We don't just mass delete content we think is poorly sourced. You've been citing the policies without actually reading them. IRWolfie- (talk) 09:59, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've started an WP:ANI thread about your deletions of sourced content which you have removed from numerous articles. IRWolfie- (talk) 14:08, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Just to be clear wtih you, as far as the edit warring policy is concerned there is no right and wrong in an edit war. Anyone who edit wars is wrong and is blocked to prevent them from continuing. The only exemption is reverting blatant vandalism, which is not the case here. We don't allow edit warring becasue it never helps resolve an issue, and it always makes it worse.
  • What to do instead:
Mark disputed statements, or if needed the entire page with appropriate tags
initiate discussion on the talk page (note that edit summaries are not a substitute for actual discussion)
If that does not rectify the issue seek page protection and/or dispute resolution as needed.

Beeblebrox (talk) 16:59, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lengthened block to indefinite

I've increased the duration of your block to indefinite. In a current thread at AN/I, there are significant concerns about the high volume of questionable edits you've made. More concerningly, there is some evidence of possible plagiarism in a number of your edits. I'd like to leave open the possibility of unblocking you at some point in the future, provided that we can be assured that you understand sourcing/content policy and the basics of plagiarism, but this block is intended to give other editors time to sort through your work and identify the scope of the problems.

I've posted this block at AN/I, where other admins will review it. If there's substantial disagreement with my decision to block you, then you'll be unblocked. If you'd like to make a statement, you can place it here and someone can copy it over to the AN/I thread for greater visibility. You can also see the guide to appealing blocks. MastCell Talk 18:20, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is absolutely ridiculous and uncalled for. I am unable to even defend myself! Why are you not allowing me to defend myself? I cannot hope to have someone copy and paste this to the ANI board. All of my edits are good faith edits that have been fully sourced and each edit fully documented. I have never removed sourced criticisms for dubious reasons - every single reason for the edit was clearly given. If you are not going to review my edits independently but attempt to claim by looking at a simple before and after diff then that I am "whitewashing" something then you are not attempting to be intellectually honest. I cannot defend myself on this talk page. All those editors complaining about me do not want me editing because I was attempting to give those BLPs a NPOV and not the negatively biased view that they are presented in. Any issue of plagiarism I will gladly correct and they were all in good faith. Other editors clearly read those and made no attempt to correct them or point this out as a problem of which I would have immediately corrected. I had assumed since those sentences were fully source it would meet criteria for adequate credit.--JournalScholar (talk) 20:13, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I have not even been given the chance to defend any of the accusations against me. The editors attacking me strongly disagree with my editing various BLPs to a NPOV because they hold these people in a negative light. No attempt was made to contact me about any of these issues as I would have worked to resolve all of them. I would like the opportunity to defend each charge made against me. An indefinite block is absolutely uncalled for. I would like the possible to post to the ANI board to defend myself. "Looking at JournalScholar's editing, it appears that some of his edits are at least arguable, while others are pretty much straight-up removals of well-sourced material without adequate justification" - That is an absolute lie. I have never removed well-sourced material without adequate justification and will defend every edit I made.

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User:JournalScholar's two statements above have been copied to WP:ANI#Whitewashing to facilitate review of this block. EdJohnston (talk) 22:43, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • First, I just want to be clear that the indefinite block is not a permanent block. It is a means of freezing your activity so that some serious concerns about your editing could be sorted through in a more speedy manner. You are absolutely allowed to defend yourself, as you have here.
  • OK, let's get to some specific edits so we can better understand your thought process. How is this edit original research? How is this not a reliable source and in violation of BLP? --Jprg1966 (talk) 23:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
First of all are you an administrator? As I only wish to make my case to Administrators. --JournalScholar (talk) 01:09, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
[1] That edit is completely unsupported by any reliable source. I could not find a single reliable source to support any of the information in that paragraph and the sole source does not mention Spencer. Contentious and unsourced information can be immediately removed from any BLP see WP:BLP. Also this is Roy Spencer's BLP not a discussion of the UAH satellite temperature record which should take place on the appropriate Wikipedia page, UAH satellite temperature dataset. --JournalScholar (talk) 01:09, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
[2] Self published sources WP:SELFPUB (a congressional submission by Holdren) cannot be used in discussions of third parties - Pat Michaels. There is no editorial oversight of these submissions. I also believe it to be speculative gossip and not appropriate for a BLP. Holdren stated "He has published little if anything of distinction in the professional literature" - that is not something that can be factually determined. "being noted rather for his shrill op-ed pieces" - That is a personal attack and not appropriate for a BLP. Do you really believe that is encyclopedic content? --JournalScholar (talk) 01:09, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]