User talk:Parsecboy

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GAN

Hey, Parsecboy, would you have the time to do a GA Review of Kongo Class Battlecruiser? It's just finished a rewrite five months in the making, and I figure that if I don't ask someone personally it could be that long before it's reviewed. Cam ^(Chat) 03:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I should have time this morning to look the article over. I know what you mean about waiting at GAN, I've had articles there for multiple months before. Parsecboy (talk) 11:07, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Looks like I've run out of time doing other things this morning, but I'll get to it either tonight after work or tomorrow morning. Parsecboy (talk) 15:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I think I've fixed most of the spelling corrections. Cam ^(Chat) 05:00, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

That looks good, at least as far as I can tell. There's one point I raised on the GA review page here that needs to be addressed before I pass the article. Parsecboy (talk) 18:00, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

k. that's fixed as well. and ill be sure to review your article ASAP. Cam ^(Chat) 00:16, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

List of battleships of Germany

Great work! I have access to a reprint of the 1914 edition of Jane's Fighting Ships; do you know if I could help at all with it? Nyttend (talk) 13:15, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Is there anything in the Jane's that isn't in the article? Does it have specific dates for when any of the ships were laid down? Groner just has the year in most cases. Parsecboy (talk) 14:51, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, here's a question: does it have an overhead line-drawing of SMS Hela in it? Both Groner's German Warships 1815-1945 and Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1860-1905 just have side views, and at the GA review the reviewer asked if one was available. Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 15:24, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

I can help somewhat with both of these. Jane's generally gives months for launching, although not dates; do you need all of them, or just some? Like with most other vessels, its section on Hela has two line drawings: a side plan and an overhead plan. I don't quite know how I'd upload those, since I don't have a scanner; would you be interested in a photograph of the page? I also don't know where to upload the image — obviously the book is PD in the USA, but I'm going to ask at MCQ to see if the book is PD in the UK as well. Nyttend (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not as familiar with copyright law in the UK. Maybe the best option would be to upload it here on Wikipedia, since it only needs to be PD in the US. If it turns out the book is also PD in the UK, it can easily be transferred to Commons. If you have all of the months of launching, that would be helpful. Parsecboy (talk) 02:31, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I've posted a request for help at Commons talk:Licensing; because the drawings are anonymous, the copyright issue is apparently one of two situations — either (1) Fred Jane counts as the creator, so copyright expired 70 years after his death in 1986, or (2) it's counted as an anonymous work, so according to {{PD-UK-unknown}}, it's PD because it's an anonymous work published before 1940. If I'd not heard back so soon after I posted the Commons talk:Licensing help request, I would have uploaded it here for the reason you mention. Nyttend (talk) 02:41, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

SMS Emden (1908)

Hi, I see you're the top contributor to SMS Emden (1908). I was wandering whether you could tell me who was the the ship's second in command during her voyage in the Indian Ocean. I know his name is Captain S. Withoift, but I got this from a Sinhala book. So I'm not sure with the spellings. I'm asking this because of Henry Engelbrecht, who was accused of supplying meat to the ship and who was the first park warden of Yala National Park, an article I'm currently improving. It is due this captain's statement it proved Engelbrecht was innocent. Best--Chanaka L (talk) 03:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

The First Officer aboard Emden was Hellmuth von Mücke (he's mentioned repeatedly throughout this book: Hoyt, Edwin Palmer (2001). The Last Cruise of the Emden: The Amazing True WWI Story of a German-Light Cruiser and Her Courageous Crew. Globe Pequot. 9781585743827). I hope that helps! Parsecboy (talk) 11:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Per this article I deduce that German cruiser Emden is the ship came to Colombo in 1931. So it must be this ship's captain who issued the statement. Your lead was helpful to clarify the matter. Really appreciate it. Thanks--Chanaka L (talk) 04:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, that would explain the discrepancy. With two cruisers named Emden raiding in the Indian Ocean, one might confuse the two :) Glad to be of at least some help. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 17:43, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Editorial

Hey Parsec, I've started an editorial here, then got to thinking. Did your Wikipedia writing inspire your choice of dissertation? If so, want to collab and finish that editorial with your thoughts/experience? —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 21:14, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Without a doubt it did; I had no knowledge whatsoever of the German Imperial Navy until I started editing articles here. I just got home from work and I have to get up early tomorrow, so I'll look at it sometime later. Thanks for the offer! Parsecboy (talk) 02:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, this is one type of writing I'm not as familiar with ;) I wrote up a short para here if you want to take a look at it. Feel free to play with it to make it fit with what you've already got. Or ask if you had something in mind that I didn't specifically address. Parsecboy (talk) 13:08, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I had that problem too. :P Would you mind if I swapped the tense around to fit with the "I"'s referring to me in the editorial? And don't let me forget to add credit for you when we are done with this. ;) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 02:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I was going to wait for you to give me the go-ahead, but I'm betting that Tom wants to get the newsletter out ASAP, so I went ahead and boldly modified your text and added it.[1] Feel free to revert. Side note: should our names be at the top or bottom? Bottom is traditional, but should we change that ("buck the trend")? ;) The signatures look awkward at the bottom. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 03:12, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

You are planning for a dissertation, right? :) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 03:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me. I think the signatures look fine, but I think it might be good to make clear who the "I" is in the beginning, since there are two signatures.

Yeah, I'm planning on doing my dissertation on something related to the German navy, maybe something about the Baltic theater against the Russians (it's much more overlooked compared to the North Sea, there's only a handful of books I've seen), but I don't have anything firm in mind just yet. And this is assuming I get into grad school this year :) Parsecboy (talk) 12:05, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

What do you think of this? [2]

Sounds interesting. Make sure you are very comprehensive so you can cite yourself on here. ;) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 03:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me.

Can we cite dissertations and such here? If all goes well with my thesis, maybe I will ;) Parsecboy (talk) 13:42, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:RS (side note: there's new name for that page, "identifying reliable sources") --- "Finished Ph.D. dissertations, which are publicly available, are considered publications by scholars and are routinely cited in footnotes. They have been vetted by the scholarly community; most are available via interlibrary loan. UMI has published two million dissertations since 1940. Dissertations in progress are not vetted and are not regarded as published. They are not reliable sources as a rule." I would think this applies to you? —Ed (talk • majestic titan)

Help please...

I have just noticed a recent infusion of largely unformatted text with extremely poor referencing (including personal interviews) by a newbie to Jesse B. Oldendorf which also removed most of the formatting of the article. While my first instinct is to just revert it all on MOS grounds, would you mind taking a look at this and see if it can be salvaged or not. -MBK₀₀₄ 04:24, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I reverted it too, the citations were all either inappropriate sources or incorrectly formatted. I left a note on the editor's talk page, hopefully s/he'll read through the policies I linked. Parsecboy (talk) 11:37, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately he is back at it again, this time referencing things to wikipedia articles and copying things from other articles. Since you've opened a dialogue with them, I'll leave this to you. -MBK₀₀₄ 21:35, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Help please: Special:Contributions/Ussrangercv4. This is getting out of hand, but apparently in good faith. -MBK₀₀₄ 02:49, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I think this is going to turn out fine, we just need to point him in the right direction as far as policies and guidelines go. We'll just keep an eye on his edits and fix the problems he inadvertently creates, and then explain to him what the problem(s) is/are. He'll get the hang of it before too long. We were all newbies once, and we could always use another OMT-er, right?. Parsecboy (talk) 13:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Request re-review of NPOV standards with regard to cruise book references

Thanks so much for your talk page comment directing me to the reliable sources noticeboard. All of your comments to date have been very helpful for me as a new Wikipedia contributor just learning ropes. Just wanted to let you know that your insights have been much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ussrangercv4 (talk • contribs) 12:43, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad to help. Since you appear to be interested in warships (including battleships), you might want to take a look at a project we have going to create the largest Featured Topic on Wikipedia that includes all battleships and battlecruisers ever built. Parsecboy (talk) 12:56, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I have received an "official" review response from the reliable sources noticeboardhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Allowable_Use_of_Self-Published__Material:_NAVY_CRUISE_BOOKS_Request_Evaluation indicating that

We have discussed cruise books before... they are considered reliable. Blueboar (talk) 13:50, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard"

Having received this response how do I then go about re-adding the material to the page so that it is registered as approved and not removed again? --Ussrangercv4 (talk) 14:01, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

In that case, you can go ahead and add it. For reference, the older discussion that was mentioned is here if you wanted to read through it. Another thing to read is Wikipedia's manual of style. Since you're interested in ships, you might also consider reading the guidelines specifically for ships. Parsecboy (talk) 14:08, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks Tom! Parsecboy (talk) 13:46, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Coordinator election

Thank you for your support MisterBee1966 (talk) 14:46, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

...

Not sure if I should congratulate you? [3] Gotta love how they are making money off your work. :-/ —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 06:12, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Sturm and I get to be involved too: [4]. They're being sold for $63, apparently. Hope people aren't stupid enough to buy them. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 06:14, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

That's really odd. I wonder how much they edited the articles. I also wonder how they've attributed us. I guess the CC license allows it, but it just seems wrong to me. We didn't write these articles for someone to throw into a book and make a quick buck. Parsecboy (talk) 11:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Answer: not much. Not much at all.[5], User:PrimeHunter/Alphascript Publishing sells free articles as expensive books. Maybe it's time to contact Amazon by email or phone? See [6]: "Recopied media infringe upon copyrights and trademarks and are illegal to sell." It's not infringing on copyright, so it's fine in the letter of the law, but only a doofus would look at this and not see something violating the law's spirit. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 16:05, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, the terms of the GDFL and CC licenses require attribution to the original authors (in this case, you, me, Sturm, and everyone else who worked on the articles), not just a blanket "these are from Wikipedia"). These books in their current form (if I correctly understand them to not attribute the authors directly) most certainly do violate the terms of use for Wikimedia content, and therefore do violate copyright. Perhaps it would be a good idea to contact Amazon. Parsecboy (talk) 18:41, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

There are something like 1700 books from them that are all copies. Do you want to draft a joint email or a Wikipedia-wide email? I'll leave these kinds of tough decisions to you. ;) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 18:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Ridiculous... This could turn into an issue for the foundation. NativeForeigner ^Talk/_Contribs/^Vote! 00:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

@ Ed: Yeah, the more and more I think about it the less and less happy I am with it. Maybe it would be better if we both sent emails. The more people who complain, the more likely Amazon is to do anything about it. The squeaky wheel and all that.

@Native Foreigner: I've seen it noted that the Foundation doesn't hold the copyright to anything, so their hands are tied legally. Since we all wrote the articles, we technically retain the copyright, despite the fact that it's been released under the CC and GDFL licenses. Therefore, we as individuals would have to pursue any legal action, and given the fact that many of us are poor college students, that isn't a problem. But, if we complain enough to the sellers of the books (as Ed and I are discussing), we might be able to persuade them pull the books. Maybe. Parsecboy (talk) 02:33, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, the foundation is already aware, in any case...[7]. Well, I'll write an email if you will. :P They may actually be complying with copyright, sort of: File:Alphascript Publishing book by Miller FP Vandome AF McBrewster J. A scanned example. History of Ghana. Copy and paste from wikipedia.pdf. Still though, I would hope that Amazon would remove the books. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 21:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

...oh my. Look at that link, page 1 -- they have even kept the hatnotes! See also p. 68 -- they credit us basically the same way that the "create a book" feature does. (I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same). —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 21:15, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Look at page 63; it's got a list of major contributors to the article along with the timestamp for each article. It seems they actually are complying with the copyright. Looks like there's nothing we can really do about it.

I can't believe they kept the hatnotes... Parsecboy (talk) 22:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, wrong page, but you're right. :/ I think I'm going to send them an email anyway. What they are doing is completely unethically and morally wrong. I doubt that a person has even seen them; the "history of Georgia" (ie the country's history) book has a picture of Atlanta on its cover! —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 23:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kaiser Friedrich III class battleship

Hello! Your submission of Kaiser Friedrich III class battleship at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible.
I'm unsure where the hook is cited. Otherwise good work NativeForeigner ^Talk/_Contribs/^Vote! 00:28, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for List of battleships of Germany

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Materialscientist (talk) 11:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for your support on the coordinator elections. I look forward to working with you for another six months, at least. – Joe N 13:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome, and thank you as well :) Parsecboy (talk) 23:59, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

ApFool

Happy AFD. :-) You have a license to go nuts. (natit citsejam • klat) dE— 04:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for SMS Brandenburg

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DYK for Kaiser Friedrich III class battleship

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Kaiser Friedrich III class battleship

I wanted to let you know that I promoted the Kaiser Friedrich III class battleship article to GA, good job. --Kumioko (talk) 17:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to review the article for GA, Kumioko! Parsecboy (talk) 18:14, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Troublesome editor

In response to this, you may want to deeply examine the editor's talk page and block log. I've issues a rather stern warning due to the ongoing behavior: User_talk:GoldDragon#Continued_edit_warring_and_no_discussion. -MBK₀₀₄ 03:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

nested parameter

Hi, concerning these edits of yours I would like to inform you that nested parameter is not needed anymore. Banners are automatically nested when inside WPBS. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 21:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

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Trolls

The first draft was worse. :-) - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 02:01, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I suspected he just might be a repeat offender. I propose execution. Can we make that happen? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 03:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Deutschland class battleship

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DYK for Wittelsbach class battleship

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Materialscientist (talk) 02:32, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

How do I request the USS Ranger CV-4 Page be updated from a stub?

The USS Ranger CV-4 page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ranger_(CV-4) has just been extensively improved with verifiable inline references throughout. Based on this I'd like the article to be upgraded from a stud and the red question mark box saying "This article includes a list of references or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations. Please help to improve this article by introducing more precise citations where appropriate. (September 2008)". How would I go about requesting this and where?

Thanks Ussrangercv4 (talk) 01:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Parsecboy your feedback is much appreciated. The technique cited for how to do the citations is just what the doctor ordered. I plan to do it just that way moving forward. It's a lot less work and presents a much less cluttered appearance as you noted. I'll definitely look at all of the links you provided because I'm sure they'll be super helpful. Thanks again for your assitance. Ussrangercv4 (talk) 16:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for SMS Deutschland (1904)

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B-class review USS Maine

Hello,

About a week ago your were so kind to review the USS Maine (ACR-1) article for B-class. You found a few more places needing citations and were so awesome to even point them out to me! I added the refs where needed and posted on WP:MHAR if anybody could reasses, assuming the review was still open since you didn't strike through the name. That was 6 days ago and since then nobody has looked at it though. Now I was wondering whether I should consider the review ended and start a new one, or just have patience? Cheers Yoenit (talk) 19:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Possible hook?

Regarding your comment on Bushranger's page, I've tried to forumlate a hook for Erzherzog franz ferdinad. Here goes:

• ... that the SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand fought in World War 1, a war started by the assasination of her namesake?

Of course, the draft is only at 1015 characters. It's going to be a while...

Cheers, Buggie111 (talk) 03:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

That looks good to me. Yeah, sometimes it's difficult to track down enough information to make the size requirements. I'll see what I can track down to help out with the article. Parsecboy (talk) 11:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Oblivion Lost

I don't think you have the right to delete what you decide it's "redundant". The article was showing these vehicles ordered by gun caliber, not by something else, as the articles you mentioned! Where in this : Lists of armoured fighting vehicles you find what i did?!

"Moreover, no one ever refers to a tank or mechanized artillery as a "fully enclosed and armored breech loading ground fighting vehicle."" Whether you are aware or not, this is the right way to describe all these vehicles, and this is what i meant, ordered by gun caliber. What you or someone else call these vehicles is not necessary what they are!

Now, you going to revert back the deleted article as it was before. If you have objections, use the "Discussion". You don't delete, just because you don't like it! Oblivion Lost (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I certainly do; the list was redundant to both the existing lists as well as categories (for instance, List of assault guns sorts the vehicles by nationality, gun caliber, and conflict). Your title is a flagrant example of wikiality, of someone creating an article with a title they themselves made up. Find me one reliable source that refers to any of these vehicles with the title you invented, and then maybe we'll have something to talk about. The article will stay deleted, because it doesn't meet our requirements for inclusion. Parsecboy (talk) 16:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, some of us actually do something in Wikipedia, create, others....just searching themselves by patrolling other people's work. Oblivion Lost (talk) 16:31, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

You don't even know me or what I do here; I've written 50 articles that have been rated GA or higher, including 14 featured articles. If you're going to resort to baseless attacks, please do not comment here again. Parsecboy (talk) 16:55, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

epic

		The Socratic Barnstar
		For brief - yet incredibly eloquent - demonstrations of your argumentative skills on the MilHist Talk Page, particularly with regard to unit capitalization, I am delighted to award you this barnstar. For all debaters everywhere, Cam (Chat) 22:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Cam :) Parsecboy (talk) 01:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Furutre GTC for Radetzky class battleship

Hi Parsecboy! Erzherzog passed GA, and Zryini is approaching a nomination, I;m here to tell you that, pretty soon, a GTC for those articles will be created. You, being the dude who did half of them, should know about. (Any chance of getting one of the to an FA and helping me get Erzherzog to FA?, both for an FT and Erzherzog to help me get closer to a Four Award At DYK, as you know. Cheers, Buggie111 (talk) 00:01, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

This actually occurred to me while I was at work this evening. I think the class article could easily be pushed to A-class with some light work, and then it's but a short hop to FA from there. If we can get that article along with Franz Ferdinand, we'll actually have a FT, since 50% of the articles will be featured. Parsecboy (talk) 01:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and I mocked up the GTC box here for use once we get Zrinyi to GA. Parsecboy (talk) 01:48, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

FYI, I've uploaded a postcard I found on one site that should replace the old Zrinyi. Check it out if you need assurance. Buggie111 (talk) 02:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Help please...

I am concerned about Ussrangercv4 (talk · contribs) and his edits to USS Pennsylvania (BB-38) USS Tennessee (BB-43) and other ship articles. I see that you have began some conversation with him, but his edits to add in these tables don't seem to conform to not only the MOS but also place a precedent that does not even exist in the existing FAs of battleships. This also has to do with the list of commanding officers issue we all know about. Perhaps you could ask him to enter into a discussion at WT:OMT about this since large tables like he is adding are actively discouraged at FAC and should instead form stand-alone FLs. While I welcome the enthusiasm of a new editor, and I realize I should be the one to raise these concerns, I would most likely have issues with WP:BITE and WP:OWN. -MBK₀₀₄ 02:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I'm about to go to bed, but I'll drop a line on his talk page tomorrow about it. Thanks for letting me know. Parsecboy (talk) 02:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Warship International

Were you aware that OSU has a run of this indispensable magazine? Much of it has been indexed at http://www.warship.org/wi_index_intro.htm. I'd be interested to see exactly what issues the library there has on hand as there are a ton of interesting articles from the magazine's early days.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations

		The Military history A-Class medal with oak leaves
		For prolific work on SMS Goeben, SMS Helgoland and List of battleships of Germany, promoted to A-Class between February and April 2010, by order of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, you are hereby awarded the A-Class medal with Oak Leaves. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)