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Hi Roger, I see you requested a speedy deletion for this article [[Draft:Eric Robinson (Record Producer, Mixer)]] under a G12. I made a novice error by including [https://podcasts.apple.com/gh/podcast/eric-robinson/id921392413?i=1000429434364 this link] as a citation. I realized the text from this link already appears verbatim in another [https://www.eric-robinson.com/about citation]. Would you consider restoring this article with the improper G12 citation removed? Thanks. --[[User:Cordon8|Cordon8]] ([[User talk:Cordon8|talk]]) 08:12, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Roger, I see you requested a speedy deletion for this article [[Draft:Eric Robinson (Record Producer, Mixer)]] under a G12. I made a novice error by including [https://podcasts.apple.com/gh/podcast/eric-robinson/id921392413?i=1000429434364 this link] as a citation. I realized the text from this link already appears verbatim in another [https://www.eric-robinson.com/about citation]. Would you consider restoring this article with the improper G12 citation removed? Thanks. --[[User:Cordon8|Cordon8]] ([[User talk:Cordon8|talk]]) 08:12, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

== [[:Draft:NASLite]] ==

? [[:Draft:NASLite]] g12? g11? : Indirect scummering Arbom candidate {{U|Barkeep49}}? : Ho hum. Couldn't make it up could we? [[Special:Contributions/31.50.16.186|31.50.16.186]] ([[User talk:31.50.16.186|talk]]) 12:22, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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Draft:Cosmoteer

I think you made a mistake deleting the Cosmoteer draft article. While I agree that the article wasn't ready for mainspace, read like an ad and was under referenced, I intended to improve it and fix those problems, that is what draft space is for isn't it?. That fact that I was intending to improve it should have been obvious from my message in the talk page and the fact I made the entire article in the past 2 days. So, can you please return the article to draft space. — FormularSumo (talk) 08:18, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks you for restoring the article. Sorry for not leaving a link. I normally do, but I suppose I (wrongly) thought it not helpful as the draft had been deleted. — FormularSumo (talk) 15:44, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Prasantt Ghosh

Hi Roger! Requesting to know what exactly was the promotional content for which the page Prasantt Ghosh was deleted. I had recently created a wikipedia page named Prasantt Ghosh. But I found out that you deleted the page due to some "UNAMBIGUOUS PROMOTION". I'm new to wikipedia so please guide me exactly what went wrong and how can I retrieve the lost data to make the required changes. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepika Deori (talkcontribs) 13:28, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Most of the article. "Prasantt Ghosh has given a new aura to the traditional Assamese and northeast outfits with his creativity and authenticity" is a good example. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who has no CoI but does know encyclopedic style thinks the guy is notable and writes about him here. If you want your text, read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Roger! Thank you for your reply. I tried my best to remove any "UNAMBIGUOUS PROMOTION" for the page Prasantt Ghosh. Can you please e-mail me the copy of the deleted article so that I can make the necessary changes. I have updated my mail as you directed. — Deepika Deori

Thank you so much! Will make the necessary changes as required. Deepika Deori 11:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC)Deepika DeoriDeepika Deori 11:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Roger! The page has been deleted again because of any "UNAMBIGUOUS PROMOTION". Can you please specify the mistakes? Were the citation links any promotional? Please specify. Thank you! Deepika Deori 06:46, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

  • You shot yourself in the foot by re-creating the page with the speedy deletion tag still in place. If you really insist on spamming us, I suggest you do so via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Dragonboat Ronin/sandbox

Greetings Mr. Haworth, Recently a page in progress User:Dragonboat Ronin/sandbox was deleted with a caption from you saying "I am deafened by the shouting". If you are referring to the use of capital letters i apologize for any misunderstanding: this was only a template that i was working on formatting into something viable for Wikipedia and no "shouting" was intended. Among the many changes intended, i was hoping to find some way to change the upper-case without having to retype everything manually. This entire page was a very rough draft, not remotely near ready for submission to publication.

I had been under the impression my user sandbox was not a public domain and could be used to work on a potential submission until it is legitimately ready for Wikipedia submission. Is this not the case? If not and if i hope to submit a proper document, then do i need to compose it fully on my own editor first before making any submissions even into the user sandbox? Essentially i am hoping to publish a synopsis of the fastest dragon boat race times throughout respective historic major competitions in all major locations around the world. If this is not something suitable for Wikipedia please let me know. Regards, Dragonboat Ronin (talk) 23:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

  • "Public domain" is a technical term re copyright. Nothing on Wikipedia is public domain - all is covered by the Creative Commons licence. But your sandbox is fully visible to "the public". But that is not the issue. The question is: are you actually developing article material or using Wikipedia as a free host. In OpenOffice Writer: select text; click Format / Change case / required option. Similar in other text editors. Two states of your page sent. I advise you to keep it away from Wikipedia until it looks more like article material. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Greetings Mr. Haworth. First of all, great thanks for the respectful (and very helpful) reply; I was NOT under the impression that my sandbox was publicly viewable. Note: I may not be alone in this misconception; I seem to recall a statement when being welcomed to Wikipedia that said something to the order of writing in your sandbox if you do not want to affect main-space (I took this to mean my sandbox was a private zone to practice with the Wikipedia editor).

Regarding assistance: i am literally amazed that you took the personal time to help change the case for me in my text. My work-in-progress was actually a cut & paste of an email i wrote to various prominent people in the Dragonboat community in response to several records set in the World Championships last August; hence the overly personal tone. Several suggested i publish the results as currently no online articles cover this in as much depth. I wrote it in Notepad (a *very* rudimentary text editor that comes free on many older computers). I do not have advanced editing programs capable of 'case change'; my system is far outdated and living situation somewhat compromised. Final question before i try again: is there no format on Wikipedia where one can practice with the editor without the potential of being removed? Many thanks again for the help in light of my newbie-naivete. — Dragonboat Ronin (talk) 13:57, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Actually doing the case change took negligible time - just a few clicks - you will see that it is a pretty indiscriminate conversion. Finding that I already had the relevant tool took most of the time! Is your system so out of date that you cannot install OpenOffice? I am still working happily on Windows XP. Avoiding removal: it is a bit messy but: edit in your sandbox to your heart's content; preview as often as you like but do not publish changes; at regular intervals, copy from the Wikipedia edit window into an edit page of a plain text editor like WordPad and save it on your own machine. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

wow, once again i'm humbled then. I'm using Windows 7 and i thought that was outdated. Used XP right up until my old system died and have been trying to go no further than 7 ever since (anything beyond that seems like deterioration). I have a text program but its a free download and has no bells/whistles. I generally use Notepad as its so basic even i can't screw it up. Either way, the case-change you provided was a huge help. If i can come up with something worthy of publication, then i am compelled (possibly legally, definitely morally) to include your name credit under editorial assistance. Thank you again. Dragonboat Ronin (talk) 06:49, 24 November 2019 (UTC)Dragonboat Ronin

request re deleted page

Hi.; I would like to retrieve the text of the deleted article History of the world (2008-present) so that I can save it for myself. Could you please assist? thanks. -- Sm8900 (talk) 14:30, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Fallen Journalists Memorial Foundation

Why was my draft deleted? The last editor said to remove peacock language so I did that by quoting material from the organization's website. I cited many news articles, as this organization has been covered many times over the last six months. That's how it came on my radar; and when I tried to find its Wikipedia page, it did not have one. I don't understand what I am supposed to do. The information I included in the draft is similar to that of other Wikipedia pages I have seen on similar subjects. Since this organization has been covered by many media outlets, since it is going to be responsible for a new monument in the United States capital, and since a lot of notable people are involved, it is curious why you have deleted the page. And I would like a copy of the text of the deleted draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mediaexpert3 (talkcontribs)

  • Learn to provide a link whenever you talk about a page: User:Mediaexpert3/Proposed Title. It is very simplistick of me but when I see an <h1> heading in article I think "spammer who cannot be bothered to learn our standards". I am happy to let you have your text - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Chokh Film Society

Chokh Film Society, Shahjalal University of Science and Technology: This page should not be speedy deleted because this follows the guidelines of Wikipedia Credible claim of significance. This page is falls under the categorization of the pages linked below: Film Society which also redirects to another valid page of that same listing from different institution: Dhaka University Film Society. Please restore the text and page so that other contributors may help building the page with valid references and links. Help me understand what changes to make for the validation of this page. Thank You. Ratuls21 (talk) 11:15, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

  • New messages go at the bottom of this page and only need one signature. I do not offer you much hope but if you insist, try again via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Redirect

Hello. This redirect is absolutely incorrect and I have no idea how I put it there few years ago (unfortunately I'm author of it). It's WP:OR (unofficial translation) and even translation is incorrect. — Eurohunter (talk) 14:41, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

  • I haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

I mean this. — Eurohunter (talk) 16:23, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Potential restore of File:PoisonIvy23.1.png

Hi RHaworth, I was hoping that you might restore the linked page. I feel that it was speedied in bad faith, as its use for an infobox image was contested. There is a discussion on the article talk page but now users cannot judge between the two potential image choices due to this file's deletion. And yes, I am aware of NFCC policy. — Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 15:39, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

S Ahmed Meeran

Hi, Why you deleted S Ahmed Meeran Wikipedia page ? The first time it was created it wasn't with proper articles and references but now when I created it was with proper reference and followed all wiki rules.... I want to know the reason why it was deleted! — Monica Yuva Prasad (talk) 08:04, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

I have done as directed, please throw your 2 cents on the changes which are needed for it, as you are the one who deleted it. — Monica Yuva Prasad (talk) 08:03, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming!

Hello, Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in! From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community. If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you! -- User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Out of process deletions

You speedily deleted both Convents:Convents of the Catholic Church in South America and Andrea Torrielli, which were at AfD, without specifying any speedy deletion criterion. The first looks like a G6/G7 so deletion was certainly valid, but the reason wasn't specified. For the latter, you closed the AfD after only one day with no valid explanation. Would you care to amend your close? --Michig (talk) 09:02, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

  • This is not just pedantry: it is simply fussiness. You have my full permission to do whatever you want with these titles. I shall not interfere.
Laurel Lodged, a case like the convents page did not require an AfD - applying {{db-author}} would have got rid of it without fuss. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Please just use the correct criteria for deleting articles, and if you're speedily deleting something that's at AfD, make it clear that you speedily deleted it when closing the discussion. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 12:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, why you deleted the page? According to wP:NPOL, members of the legislative assembly are notable. -- S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 19:12, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

RHaworth, would you restore Narayan Rao Tarale, which you deleted under CSD A7, please? The article asserted that the subject was a member of a state legislature (backed up with sources), which is a credible claim of significance or importance. Thanks, -- Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:35, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Article deleted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Church_of_St._Nicholas,_Adelaide There was only a small portion that was a direct copy. Why did you flag it for copyright violation and quick deletion? I don't have a copy of the work I did! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilipKhoo (talkcontribs)

The bit that you flagged for copyright violations was a quote from the "Relevant Criteria" of the study written with reference under a section of the development act. Which is why I didn't want rewrite it and left it in with a link to the original. It constitutes fair use as it is a government funded study that was quoted for research and scholarship purposes. It was not a copyright violation.

"[You] say very firmly that it is not [your] job to remove copyvio bits from an article." but in fact under the Wikipedia guideline it is the job of the person dealing with the the suspected copyright violations to, "If you have strong reason to suspect a violation of copyright policy and some, but not all (my emphasis), of the content of a page appears to be a copyright infringement, then the infringing content should be removed (ie deleted) with the source url in the edit summary if possible. Revision deletion should then be requested by placing {{copyvio-revdel}} on the article page or directly contacting an administrator on their talk page. In the future it would be best to follow the guidelines or leave it to someone who will. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilipKhoo (talkcontribs)

  • The stuff you quote is addressed to an editor interested in improving an article with copyvio material. What I was doing was dealing with the "revision deletion should then be requested …" bit. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

From the 'bit' you are referring to "because the page's history contains significant copyright violations that have been removed in the meantime." it did not contain 'significant' violations and the viloations could have been simply removed and added back in correctly. Either way from the look of your discussion page you are a bit loose with your deletion request powers. Consider giving other users a bit of leeway before you nuke their work - and if you are in any doubt leave it to someone with a more compassion for their fellow users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilipKhoo (talkcontribs) 00:06, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
For having to put up with the occasional plate of baloney. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:38, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Page restored

Note that I restored User:JohaNepomuk. You deleted it several minutes after I declined the CSD as it was being used as evidence in an SPI and the deletion request was an end run to hide the connection between accounts.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 23:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Arthur N. Applebee

Please explain to me copyright infringement re https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Arthur_N._Applebee . I have worked hard through several revisions to meet the criteria for forming an article for Arthur N. Applebee, as shared with me by various Wikipedia editors. As part of that I have been fastidious in giving sources for biographical material. One of the sources for facts about the life of the subject was the obituary in his local Altamont newspaper. This information is also available in other sources that do not meet Wikipedia's criteria according to previous reviews. I do not believe I was copying any substantial wording from that obituary, but only publicly verifiable information, and I then credited the obituary for this factual material. So if you could explain to me what is improper in this, please let me know so I can fix it. Also could you please send me the text of the deleted draft article as I unwisely did not save a copy. Thank you. Methodical 05:03, 26 November 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbazerman (talkcontribs)

Thank you for sending the deleted text <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Arthur_N._Applebee> and information about the copied phrasing. I apologize for my carelessness and I have revised the text to remove the difficulty, I hope to your satisfaction, and I have added a bit more detail . How may I resubmit the revised text for approval? — Methodical 16:56, 26 November 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbazerman (talkcontribs)

  • Is it really too difficult for you to learn wikilinks? The title is not (yet) protected so resubmit in the same way that you submitted your first version. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:36, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Chidi Ajaere

You deleted the wiki page: Chidi Ajaere for unambiguous advertising. I started a new page and created the drafts for review; But nothing has been done since september. Every advertised contents has been modified. what can i do to ensure it's published again. Thanks for your assistance. -- Femdav (talk) 12:19, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Fleishman is in Trouble

Hi, I had submitted the draft:Fleishman is in Trouble as an AfC which you promptly deleted under criteria G11. I was wondering if you could tell me which passages (or lack thereof) struck you as “unambiguous advertising or publicity” so that this does not happen the next time around. If you feel you want the full text you can find it here, where I've reworked the draft to make it hopefully more acceptable. Your feedback would be hugely appreciated. — GinaJay (talk) 05:22, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Delete Tina Akhoondtabar's Article

Hi dear , unfortunately you delete the article of Tina Akhoondtabar . ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tina_Akhoondtabar ) I want to know the reason , and how can I fix it to submit . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erfan Valizade Shiran (talkcontribs)

NARU Academy

Hi RHaworth, The page NARU Academy was incorrectly deleted under WP:CSD#A7 . In fact, with a Google search, news articles can be found on the Academy. They are a company supporting gender equality through sports and have done a lot for women's rights in general. They have started the first international FC Barcelona Girl's Soccer camp, which can be found here. The company mentioned in the article is NARU Sports in which NARU Academy is one in the same. In addition, another camp ran by NARU Academy was the Hero Girls Camp, which was reported here and here. If more information is needed to restore the page, including TV coverage and more news articles, please let me know. The company deserves a Wikipedia article about its work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cameron.Sherry1 (talkcontribs) 10:37, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Why do you persistently shout your company's name? Is it an acronym? Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:36, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

I am not affiliated with NARU Academy, and I reference the company's name because I don't know the employees or who exactly was responsible for the actions I mentioned. For the sake of simplicity, I repeatedly used the company's name. To address the last part of your statement, I am literally a person who believes that NARU Academy is doing great work for women's rights and gender equality in general. I don't work for a reporting agency, so I figured a Wikipedia page would do better than a comment on Facebook or Yelp. In addition, the page was reported for a lack of notability, which I presented you information to combat this report (that you seem to have ignored). There was no mention of a bias, nor do I think I had included or inferred any in the page, besides what you call "shouting my company's name". If need be, I can use vague pronouns if it will eliminate any indication of bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cameron.Sherry1 (talkcontribs) 17:44, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

  • I view your "no CoI" claim with the greatest scepticism. Restored to draft:Naru Academy. Clearly it stands zero chance at the moment because it lacks independent evidence of notability. When you think it is ready, click on the "submit" button. Do not move it yourself. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:34, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Can you ban this spammer

I noticed you deleted the user page of User:Lemmy Dukwe but he also spammed his sandbox as well as the Wikipedia Main page talk page so can you ban this spammer please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:BC82:2300:9C28:82D5:204E:323A (talk) 22:20, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Conflict of Nations

Hello. I created the Conflict of Nations page, but it was speedily deleted according to the A7 criterion. The speedy deletion template was placed before I put in external references, and the article was speedily deleted even after I provided several third-party articles that were specifically written about the game both on the talk page and on the article itself. According to Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#A7, the A7 criterion "is a lower standard than notability". I had provided multiple independent sources that were solely concerned with the game. I do not believe that my article failed the A7 criterion. Could you tell me on my user page why these third-party articles were not sufficient to prove the notability of the topic and, if possible, restore my article to there? Thank you. -- J (talk) 22:09, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

  • New messages go at the bottom of this page and we keep the thread in one place. It is article suicide to develop in mainspace. Restored to draft:Conflict of Nations. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:34, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephkim04 (talkcontribs) 14:18, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Request undeletion

Please restore Category:Arizona State Sun Devils beach volleyball players, Category:UCLA Bruins beach volleyball players, Category:USC Trojans beach volleyball players, Category:Pepperdine Waves beach volleyball players, Category:Nebraska Cornhuskers beach volleyball players, Category:College women's beach volleyball venues in the United States and their respective talk pages. The editor who tagged them for deletion under WP:CSD G7 was not the actual creator/author of these categories. Bennv3771 (talk) 09:55, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Page: Truck Lagbe

Hello, a page created by me Truck_lagbe is deleted for "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion". I'm new in wikipedia so kindly let me know what went wrong and how can I resubmit it with required changes. Thanks TL Ronie (talk) 07:21, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

SAUF Article deletion - Need help.

RHaworth Sir,

Thanks for taking time out to read this post. This is regarding the "Shree Aniruddha Upasana Foundation" article being speedy deleted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Shree_Aniruddha_Upasana_Foundation&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shree_Aniruddha_Upasana_Foundation&action=edit&redlink=1

I believe the key reason highlighted is promotional article.

The article is not intended to promote the SAUF organization. The purpose of creating the Wikipedia article is to make people aware about the organization and its activities so a lot more people can benefit from its services.

Discarding this article as promotional and tagging it for speedy deletion is not aligned with the Wikipedia principles of democracy. If there are content/format changes required, we are welcome to all the suggestions.

SAUF has a website which talks about all the work and achievements. https://aniruddhafoundation.com/

We would really appreciate if you can help us to rewrite the article so that many more people all the over the world become aware about SAUF and benefit from its services.

In case you have not heard about SAUF before, here is

SAUF history, Key objectives and representative achievements

SAUF is a well known organization in Mumbai, India and has presence across many countries in the world thru 550+ prayer centers. Also all of its services are free of costs and hundreds of thousands of people have benefited from the same in last 14+ years.

The key objectives of the foundation are disaster management, open medical treatment centers, provide psychological well-being and support, propagate literacy and provide support at a physical and intellectual level to every individual.

SAUF is active in multiple areas like upliftment of poor and needy, women empowerment, child development, Medical and Rehabilitation, environment conservation, student support, crowd management etc. which are all good for the society in general.

There are various cultural events hosted by the foundation throughput the year to promote harmony and peace among the community.

SAUF and its work has been recognized by leading media in India like Times of India, DNA. Also its work has been highlighted in various regional newspapers like Sakal, Lokmat, Tarun Bharat, Maharashtra Times etc.

Also it has received several appreciation letters from well known institutions like Tata Memorial hospital and various Government organizations including the regional police departments. The award from Governor of Maharashtra is worth mentioning.


Prasad Chaubal 07:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaubals (talkcontribs)

Ariel, Israel‎

Hi, I see that you undid my deletion request. FYI: Ariel (city) is not in Israel (it is on the occupied West Bank). Presently there is 0 links to Ariel, Israel‎ (and I cannot see any reason why anyone should need to link to it.) So why not delete it? Huldra (talk) 21:57, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Eric Robinson (Record Producer, Mixer)

Hi Roger, I see you requested a speedy deletion for this article Draft:Eric Robinson (Record Producer, Mixer) under a G12. I made a novice error by including this link as a citation. I realized the text from this link already appears verbatim in another citation. Would you consider restoring this article with the improper G12 citation removed? Thanks. --Cordon8 (talk) 08:12, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

? Draft:NASLite g12? g11? : Indirect scummering Arbom candidate Barkeep49? : Ho hum. Couldn't make it up could we? 31.50.16.186 (talk) 12:22, 2 December 2019 (UTC)