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::Also, please note that a number of examples cited above by [[User:Pmanderson]] are several months old, hardly acceptable in the face of the recent Eastern European amnesty decision by the ArbCom. Thanks for your consideration. --[[User:Poeticbent|<font face="Papyrus" color="darkblue"><b>Poeticbent</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Poeticbent|<small><font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</font></small>]] 21:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC) |
::Also, please note that a number of examples cited above by [[User:Pmanderson]] are several months old, hardly acceptable in the face of the recent Eastern European amnesty decision by the ArbCom. Thanks for your consideration. --[[User:Poeticbent|<font face="Papyrus" color="darkblue"><b>Poeticbent</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Poeticbent|<small><font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</font></small>]] 21:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::**The first four are. They are equally divided between Poeticbent and Matthead; neither of them retracted anything. Let them stand as context. [[User:Pmanderson|Septentrionalis]] <small>[[User talk:Pmanderson|PMAnderson]]</small> 22:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC) |
::**The first four are. They are equally divided between Poeticbent and Matthead; neither of them retracted anything. Let them stand as context. [[User:Pmanderson|Septentrionalis]] <small>[[User talk:Pmanderson|PMAnderson]]</small> 22:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Admin response''' Obviously someone who is involved in a dispute can make a report here, it is the job of admins reading this page to attempt to decide if the complaint is legitimate or not. Unfortunately there are no enforceable remedies in that case, so even if one or more users have ignored the advice to play nice, there is nothing that can be done from this board. General blocks for incivility or just being a dick can be requested at WP:ANI. or you can ask ArbCom to review the case and apply new remedies. [[User talk:Thatcher131|Thatcher131]] 02:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC) |
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==[[User:Hajji Piruz]]== |
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{{discussion top|I concur with GRBerry in this instance [[User talk:Thatcher131|Thatcher131]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)}} |
{{discussion top|I concur with GRBerry in this instance [[User talk:Thatcher131|Thatcher131]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)}} |
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The user is under civility parole under Armenia-Azerbaijan 2 case. He repeatedly accused me of being immoral in Khojaly Massacre talkpage --VartanM 21:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ditto, this user has been ratcheting up the rhetoric left and right, trying to get a rise out of ethnic tensions by implying that some of the users are intolerant or racist in their editing and opening up a new front on nationalist grounds on Wikipedia.--Marshal Bagramyan 23:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
He's actually in violation of number of Principles
- 1 Negotiation
- 4 Consensus
- 5 Wikipedia is not a battleground
- 7 Courtesy
- 8 Assume good faith
- 10 Diplomacy
- 14 Provocation
- 17 Users national background and neutrality
He's also in violation of Remedies
1 fail to maintain a reasonable degree of civility in their interactions with one another concerning disputes which may arise.
2 shall apply to any editor who edits articles which relate to Armenia-Azerbaijan and related ethnic conflicts in an aggressive point of view manner marked by incivility.
Its very hard for me to Assume good faith while the user keeps attacking me. VartanM 23:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I submit the following diffs from the late controversy at Talk:Free City of Kraków. They are about equally from the two users at the head of this page; other users grew heated at the discussion, but largely through provocation by one of these two; and one of the others has recognized that he should not have, on my talkpage. This entire exchange would seem to be contrary to the requests for 'reasonable and calm behaviour" at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus; and I have not quoted everything. I intentionally list one German and one Pole; we should preserve the balance between the factions. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- They were inserted by Matthead in order to confuse the issues.....These are the real proportions Matthead tries so hard to misrepresent.
- Do underzealous Poles that are native English speakers promote Kraków then?
- Do you want your town to be listed among the countless absure places with funny names instead?
- P.S.: I refuse to respond to all other claims made by Matthead like the one made above, quote: “English speakers kept Cracow and Warsaw "verbally alive" then, and reinstated Poland after WW1, and this should be respected for decades to come.” — Please read History of Poland to learn more about how Poland was “reinstated” after WW1 by “English speakers” (wink, wink) with blood, sweat and tears, no doubt.
- And why exactly are you advocating peace, PMAnderson, while driving a stick in an ant colony?
- This must refer to Calm down, everybody! Please remember there is an Arbcom decision on Eastern Europe, advising reasonable and calm behavior out of everybody; and I do mean everybody. - my only previous edit.
- I'm sick of all the talk promoting "Krakuf", which is the way our Polish friends pronounce their "Kraków". Anyone ever heard that spoken, maybe in a BBC radio broadcast of 1978 "... and the new pope is ... the Archbishop of Krakuf"?
- Obviously, the only reason you're here is to pick a fight.
- the Austrian Grand Duchy of Cracow existed from 1846 to 1918. If the English name Cracow gets rejected in favour of a native name, I conclude that this also applies to the name of the 1846-1918 period, Krakau.
- meaning that you also promote the Polish Oświęcim concentration camp for English Wikipedia?
- edit summary: smear campaign removing comments by other people, on his arguments.
- lengthy claim that the Polish editors who have written country-specific articles have a right to name them.
- “godlier than though” attitude,
- Move of Grand Duchy of Cracow, as threatened above
--The above unsigned comment was added by User:Pmanderson as of 20:40, 30 August 2007.
- User:Pmanderson who requested Arbitration enforcement against me has been actively involved in content dispute regarding article mentioned above and in spite of my repeated pleas, continued to make derogatory comments about me all the way through till the end of his failed request to RM the article.[1]
- I submit the following comments against me, made by User:Pmanderson for your consideration.
- "Please leave us to our sloth and heathen folly, and allow us to follow our policies and write in English."\
- Not addressed to Poeticbent, as the context should make clear. The words are a quotation from Kipling, of course. 22:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- "I said nothing about who else was least constructive in this discussion."
- "not the only contestant for the least constructive editor award, which is not awarded here."
- "this is not the place for awarding least constructive editor awards."
- Ingenious, but these are scarcely attacks on Poeticbent; I went out of my way to name no-one. Does Poeticbent wish to argue that his conduct was so much worse than anyone else's that I must have meant him alone? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- "If PoeticBent indeed knows our customs, he should, as a matter of civility, abide by them."
- And he should, shouldn't he? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- "Please leave us to our sloth and heathen folly, and allow us to follow our policies and write in English."\
- Also, please note that a number of examples cited above by User:Pmanderson are several months old, hardly acceptable in the face of the recent Eastern European amnesty decision by the ArbCom. Thanks for your consideration. --Poeticbent talk 21:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- The first four are. They are equally divided between Poeticbent and Matthead; neither of them retracted anything. Let them stand as context. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Also, please note that a number of examples cited above by User:Pmanderson are several months old, hardly acceptable in the face of the recent Eastern European amnesty decision by the ArbCom. Thanks for your consideration. --Poeticbent talk 21:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Admin response Obviously someone who is involved in a dispute can make a report here, it is the job of admins reading this page to attempt to decide if the complaint is legitimate or not. Unfortunately there are no enforceable remedies in that case, so even if one or more users have ignored the advice to play nice, there is nothing that can be done from this board. General blocks for incivility or just being a dick can be requested at WP:ANI. or you can ask ArbCom to review the case and apply new remedies. Thatcher131 02:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- I concur with GRBerry in this instance Thatcher131 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
User:Hajji Piruz (formerly User:Azerbaijani) has been restricted by the 1RR/week parole per ArbCom decision. He has recently violated his parole at Azerbaijan.
Version reverted to: 11:14, 22 August 2007, note the controversial point: "The name Azerbaijan was chosen as the name for what later became the Republic of Azerbaijan in 1918 by the Musavats for political reasons", which Hajji Piruz was trying to reinsert in reverts below.
- First Revert: 00:48, 23 August 2007 - inserting the quote again.
- Second Partial Revert: 05:55, 27 August 2007 - removing another source, citation of the author, and partially resinserting the same quote again: "The name Azerbaijan was chosen as the name for what later became the Republic of Azerbaijan in 1918 by the Musavats"
Interestingly, the user has been inactive for few days, and his first edit after coming back is yet another revert. Atabek 07:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- Can you not once make a report without it being completely incorrect? Also, please assume good faith. You not assuming good faith is a complete setback to the issues of the arbcom. Read the terms of the parole, reverting anonymous vandalism is an exception to the rule, and as the first revert clearly shows, the anonymous user simply came to remove sourced information which is vandalism.Hajji Piruz 22:15, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Compromising and gaining consensus often requires using part of text A and part of text B when two texts are proposed for a section. The "Second Partial Revert" is at least as well described as an attempt at compromise as it is as a "revert"; I choose to disregard it completely on that basis. Seek compromise and consensus always. GRBerry 18:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
As a result of Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Midnight_Syndicate, Skinny_McGee is barred from editing any articles related to Midnight Syndicate or Nox Arcana.
- Skinny McGee has broken his ban on 3 occasions and exhibits a strong (or at the very least suspicious) bias toward any editor who mentions the name of the former band member, Joseph Vargo, for whom Skinny McGee holds a strong aversion, as indicated in his past when calling the person a "dispicable human being." [3] It was this contempt for his former band member and efforts at self-promotion for his band Midnight Syndicate that resulted in an edit war, and resulted in the ban in the first place. This could be Wikistalking in its infancy steps.
- Skinny McGee adding a promotional link [4] to Midnight Syndicate. Skinny McGee was suspected to be a member of that band, which was part of the reason the ban was placed.
- Removal of content (twice) from the Nox Arcana's Darklore Manor album[5] and[6]. Skinny McGee was previously found to be biased against Joseph Vargo, who is the frontman for Nox Arcana, and former producer of Midnight Syndicate. Again, this is the reason for the ban above.
- Lobbying to Prevent further investigation into references that relate to Midnight Syndicate album credentials [7]
- Wrongful allegations by Skinny McGee against User:Ebonyskye about what was posted. Ebonyskye never posted what Skinny McGee accused (he accused Ebonyskye of saying that Midnight Syndicate "copied" someone). Ebonyskye only defined an album that "inspired" Midnight Syndicate.[8]. The part about the band's being "similar" was already in the article posted by another user.[9]
- Skinny McGee also complains of an item referring to his band's former producer [10] however, the post is cited and validated. Skinny McGee also complained that this post qualified as reason to block Ebonyskye. The post was not biased in any way, it was also supported and even lengthened by another user later[11] and remains.
- Due to the complaints inaccurately reported to admins by Skinny McGee as something they were not, Ebonyskye was indeed blocked for 48 hours. According to User:Thatcher131 who blocked Ebonyskye, "I am reasonably convinced that Skinny McGee is, or is associated with, Edward Douglas."[12] (Edward Douglas being a member of Midnight Syndicate).
- Skinny McGee did NOT notify Ebonyskye of his displeasure of the edits that Ebonyskye made and did not report to Ebonyskye's page anything in regard to the request for block, giving Ebonyskye no opportunity to reply.
- Thatcher131 has refused to block Skinny McGee and cites a VERY unstable reason for not unblocking Ebonyskye... that being that an IP is "similar" or in the "vicinity" of another older user. That in addition to Skinny McGee's slanted report against Ebonyskye, conspired to cause an uneccessary block of Ebonyskye.
- Ebonyskye requested a review of the block, and it was summarily done (within 09 seconds of the request)[13] which means that no "review" was actually done at all. Thatcher131 exhibited some bias in his refusal to consider this mistake.
I request a punitive temporary block of User:Skinny McGee for 1) breaking his ban as per Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Midnight_Syndicate and 2) causing undo strife and confusion in regard to making false reports. Thanks. Ebonyskye 04:02, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Note to interested admins: Be sure to read User_talk:Ebonyskye/Archive1. Thatcher131 04:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I edited the link given by Thatcher131 to point to my archived talk page, as it includes a contents directory to make finding my points easier. Ebonyskye 20:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I just found out about this, a past Check User report about many alias' of Skinny McGee. Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Skinny_McGee. I'm not sure what it all means but it seems rather suspicious that he would try to lay blame on me for only one edit when he has all this other stuff going on. Ebonyskye 06:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- That report appears to be from before the arbitration case started. Newyorkbrad 02:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
User:Dacy69, who is on a 1 revert per article per week parole, has violated his parole on Brenda Shaffer:
First revert (August 16, 2007): [14] which was a revert (he inserted teh two reviews) of this edit: [15]
Second revert (August 20, 2007): [16] once again he reinserted the same material in a partial revert which was a revert of this [17].
I just realized this as this is the first time I have logged into Wikipedia in days. This is a clear violation of the parole.Hajji Piruz 01:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- After few days of constructive editing in absense of User:Hajji Piruz, he is back to false reporting and Wikistalking. Most notably at Mirzaagha Aliyev, article which I just started couple of days ago, and no one besides me edited yet, User:Hajji Piruz appears today with another disruption removing the reference to Azerbaijan [18]. With all assumptions of good faith, I don't see how User:Hajji Piruz could be watching this completely new article about an Azerbaijani actor, unless he was clearly Wikistalking me. His another disruption along national lines, appears at another page [19] today, again removing the word Azerbaijan. Atabek 02:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- Dacy69 has been blocked for 24 hours by Alex Bakharev. Sean William @ 02:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
As a result of the Midnight Syndicate arbitration, User:GuardianZ is barred from editing any articles related to Midnight Syndicate or Nox Arcana. ArbCom decided that GuardianZ edits were biased towards Joseph Vargo (an individual who was previously associated with Midnight Syndicate and is now a member of Nox Arcana). I believe that GuardianZ has created a new user name, User:Ebonyskye, to thwart ArbCom's decision.
- GuardianZ largely stopped editing after the arbitration decision. Her last edits were on March 12, 2007.
- Ebonyskye's account was created on March 2, 2007. She is clearly an experienced user (her 3rd edit was to Wikipedia:Cleanup), but she claims in this edit that "all this wiki stuff" is new to her.
Edits that point to Ebonyskye being GuardianZ's new identity:
- Both use as a reference and defend a defamatory website (which clearly does not satisfy WP:Verifiability) created by Joseph Vargo and his girlfriend Christine Filipak solely to discredit Midnight Syndicate and its founder –
- GuardianZ (editing as User:Oroboros 1, proven sockpuppet of GuardianZ) – [20] and [21]
- Ebonyskye – [22] and [23]
- Both accuse Midnight Syndicate of copying Nox Arcana album concepts –
- Both assert that Joseph Vargo initiated the contact with Wizards of the Coast that led to the Dungeons & Dragons album –
Edits in violation of ArbCom decision (assuming I'm correct):
- Ebonyskye's first edit to Nox Arcana on April 2.
- Ebonyskye's first edit to Midnight Syndicate on May 13th to reinsert reference to Nox Arcana.
- Other edits to the Midnight Syndicate article - [29] and [30]
- Edits to a Midnight Syndicate related article Dungeons & Dragons (album) -[31] and [32].
- Other edits to the Nox Arcana article –[33], [34],[35] and [36].
- Edits to Nox Arcana related article Darklore Manor – [37], [38],[39], and [40].
Please let me know if you need anything else or if I should have presented this differently. Thank you, Skinny McGee 04:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Confirmed. A topic ban will be enforced. Thatcher131 00:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)