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Request name	Motions	Initiated	Votes
Transgender-related POV editing		16 March 2019	0/8/0

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Transgender-related POV editing

Initiated by Mooeena ● 💌 ● ✒️ ● ❓ at 03:41, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Involved parties

• Mooeena (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
• A145GI15I95 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request

• A145GI15I95

Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried

• Talk:Detransition#Detransition vs transgender desistance (diff)
• Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Detransition Incorrect filing location.
• Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#User:Mooeena_&_Wiki:Detransition

Statement by Mooeena

This user cannot separate constructive criticism and suggestions for changes to their pet project page from personal attacks. They take personal offense to editors who make suggestions that counter their agenda and argue constantly in talk pages that people who detransition, or "detrans people" as they call them, are oppressed by LGBT people as a whole, transgender people, and rogue political actors. The vast majority of their edits are dedicated to righting the wrong of detrans oppression or "spreading awareness" to their cause.

In addition, they seem to have developed a vendetta against me personally, and have accused me of interfering with discussions about Detransition for prejudiced, peosonal, or politically motivated reasons and attempted to get me banned from the topic. I find it suspect that this user keeps fixating on the fact that she believes me to be transgender in their ban claims, although I have told them multiple times that I am not.

1. [1] There's a lot here, so I'm linking an archived version of the entire discussion. The user seems to claim ownership over the article Detransition. They have deliberately misinterpreted multiple users' notices as personal attacks throughout the talk page, stealth canvassed other editors from Twitter to back up their point (including one who appears to be a sock), attempted to close a WP:MEDRS discussion because they believed that the article was being attacked for political motivations, and attempted to topic ban users who they believed were opposing their view of how the article should be:
   1. 14 March 2019 ...via WP:COI because they assumed I was transgender.
   2. 14 March 2019 ...via WP:NPOV because I was "gender essentialist on my talk page" and put a NPOV tag on the article.
   3. 14 March 2019 ...and User:Equivamp via dispute resolution for "doxxing" (posting a canvassing warning) and "destroying the article."
2. 14 March 2019 Because I have been discussing the article in its talk page, this user has accused me of bullying, doxxing, false claims, and "anti-detrans" prejudice.
3. 14 March 2019 As part of their grudge against me editing the article, they linked directly to me removing slurs from my talk page in their change summary for blanking warnings from other editors and an admin on their own talk page.

I believe that I have been behaving appropriately regarding this article and this user has become increasingly hostile towards me for continuing to hold this article to Wikipedia's standards. This user has proven that they cannot edit pages related to this topic responsibly and neutrally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooeena (talk • contribs) 03:41, March 16, 2019 (UTC)

• • Oops, I thought this was the incident noticeboard. Thanks. Mooeena ● 💌 ● ✒️ ● ❓ 05:24, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Statement by A145GI15I95

Mooeena's criticisms haven't been "constructive", they've been hyperbolic and smear-based. Nearly every comment on Talk:Detransition takes a stab either at editors or at the subject matter. From just their statement above:

• Titling this entire section "transgender-related POV editing", when this is about detransition (a separate topic and separate community from trans).
• Calling the article "[my] pet project", "[my] agenda", and "[my] cause".
• Using scare quotes in naming detrans people, and adding "as [I] call them" (this is as detrans folk call themselves, and it's documented in news articles and around the web).
• Claiming that I argue detrans folk are oppressed by LGBT folk "as a whole".
• Denying the documented political suppression of detransition exists.
• Wiki-lawyering.
• Claiming that I've requested anyone's ban.
• Claiming that I continued ("fixated…multiple times") to believe they're trans after they said they weren't. And my concern is for their possible trans activism, not their gender identity.
• Claiming that I "claim ownership" over the article.
• Claiming that I "deliberately misinterpreted" anyone.
• Claiming that I "stealth canvassed other editors" (an admin found this untrue).
• Accusing me of sock-puppetry.
• Shaming me for filing a COI (as they suggested), and then an NPOV (as I was instructed by an admin from there).
• Shaming me for calling out an attempt to dox (confirmed by an admin).

This editor enterred the Talk page with slurs against the detrans community and smears against editors:

• Using scare quotes in naming detransitioners (implying they don't exist or their lives don't matter).
• Claiming the detrans community isn't marginalized.
• Describing presence of more than one citation as "sin".
• Claiming that anyone has argued detransition to be "a common occurrence".
• Claiming authors for The Atlantic and The Seattle Stranger to be unreliable.
• Confusing detransition to be a "transgender issue" (they're separate communities, that's like conflating gay with trans).
• Claiming Tumblr and "individual accounts" (unsure what that means) are cited.
• Claiming the article "conflates" transphobia with trans regret (this is among the least cited concerns of detransitioners).
• Using scare quotes for trans regret (implying it never happens).

And that's just our first interaction. And Mooeena has continually claimed to wish to re-focus on content, while returning to smears.

Mooeena's stance seems to be of the all-too-common political motivation that acknowledgment of the plight of detrans folk could somehow be a threat to the plight of trans folk.

Other editors and I have communicated civilly and reached compromises. I've repeatedly stated aim to avoid pitting trans against detrans, but rather to present the topic of detransition fairly. I'd like to continue work in improving this article, without the stress of attacks, please. A145GI15I95 (talk) 04:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Transgender-related POV editing: Clerk notes

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Transgender-related POV editing: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/8/0>

Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)

• Decline as very premature. This hasn't gone to any relevant community venue for a user conduct issue, so we aren't at the point where arbitration is needed. I would recommend WP:ANI. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 03:48, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
  • As a note, this entire dispute falls under existing discretionary sanctions for gender-related dispute enacted in the GamerGate case. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 06:38, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
• Decline as premature. The NPOV noticeboard request is still open and was filed yesterday. Mkdw ^talk 04:57, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mooeena: No, this is arbitration, the final dispute resolution process when all other community led dispute resolution processes have been exhausted. It is a measure of last resort. Please carefully read the instructions on each noticeboard and Wikipedia page because it often contains important information. Mkdw ^talk 05:32, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

I see this has been reported at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Transgender-related_POV now. Mkdw ^talk 18:09, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

• Decline, extremely premature. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:21, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
• Decline. Our Wikipedia:Dispute resolution system can be a little awkward to follow for those not familiar with dispute resolution. The first stage is to talk with the other person per Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution#Discuss_with_the_other_party, and that generally should be given a fair chance, not just a couple of days. While not all disputes can be resolved by talking, many can. It is the best way because those in dispute can learn something about the thinking of the other party, which can lead to greater understanding, and potentially a positive future working relationship, and generally the article itself benefits. Also, it tends to calm down the dispute rather than escalate it. Also, it doesn't involve the time of other Wikipedia volunteers. Enter the discussions openly, politely, and with a commitment to resolving the dispute. Don't get angry, and don't post personal remarks. Focus on the issue, and resolving the dispute. If you feel yourself get heated or frustrated, walk away for a while until you calm down. Or, type out your angry comments, but then delete them before posting. That works. SilkTork (talk) 09:31, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
• Decline The initial dispute resolution process hasn't really taken place yet. Filing a request to ArbCom is a bit premature, and I would want to see the community as a whole try to resolve this before we took it over. RickinBaltimore (talk) 13:48, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
• Decline You had the right idea to seek dispute resolution, but this isn't the right venue yet. Opabinia regalis (talk) 18:34, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
• Decline as premature. GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:38, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
• Decline. AGK ■ 22:03, 17 March 2019 (UTC)