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January 1

Category:Sierra Leonean earth scientists

Nominator's rationale: Each only contains one subcat, which is already within the parent categories by other routes. – Fayenatic London 23:30, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Scholars by religion

Nominator's rationale: rename to align with parent Category:Religious scholars and sibling Category:Religious scholars by nationality. This is not a speedy rename because I changed the parent from Category:Scholars to Category:Religious scholars myself a few days ago. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 08:44, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 22:39, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Non-Muslim

Nominator's rationale: merge as "non-Muslim" is not a verifiable characteristic. People may have converted to Islam without anyone knowing. While merging manually, many articles may more specifically be moved to Category:Islamic studies scholars since this is the category for academic "western style" scholars of Islam, regardless of their personal beliefs. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:38, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This proposed merging might be misleading to unsuspecting readers and researchers. The argument that "people may have converted to Islam without anyone knowing" does not resonate with the characteristics of a Muslim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atibrarian (talk • contribs)
  • Keep -- There is a very major difference between those studying Islam from within it and those studying it from outside. I would not object to merging selectively to Category:Islamic studies scholars. I do not think the argument about unacknowledged conversion is a valid one. Most of those concerned are likely to be Christian or Jewish; possibly atheists or agnostics of those heritages. I accept that categorising by what they are not is unusual in WP. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (added after relisting) whether they are "likely" or "possibly" something exactly summarizes the problem: this is unverifiable information (for these subjects) and OR. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:54, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 22:38, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Middle East respiratory syndrome

Nominator's rationale: Per the results of this RM discussion, the MERS article was moved to its present title, yet this category has not been. For the sake of consistency, I believe it should follow suit. Love of Corey (talk) 18:03, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Paulo Coelho

Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category named after a person, as per WP:OCEPON. This was discussed in 2017, but I feel 4 articles and a subcat is insufficient to warrant a separate category and isn't a "very notable case" as per WP:EPCATPERS. Kj cheetham (talk) 17:44, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:PlayStation Plus games

Nominator's rationale: A category for games on the rotating subscription based video game service PlayStation Plus. These games come and go, some with limited availability. Not a WP:CATDEF whatsoever. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:59, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Amazon Luna games

Nominator's rationale: Category for games available for the cloud streaming gaming service Amazon Luna. As CoolingGibbon stated, it is not an independent platform, but a service. To make a comparison, imagine seeing Category: Films on Netflix. Furthermore, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Amazon Luna games recently resulted in deletion, this category was created shortly thereafter. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:57, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:PlayStation Now games

Nominator's rationale: Defunct subscription cloud gaming service by PlayStation, changed into the revamped PlayStation Plus. It had (and the current PlayStation Plus has) a rotating selection of available games. Was never suitable and now it's gone even more so. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:44, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:LGBT people by nationality and occupation

Nominator's rationale: This is to ensure there is consistency with all other categories of People by nationality. The American variant of these category has already been altered. We are as well to do the same with the others. Giovanni 0331 (talk) 11:25, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Proposed Jewish states

Nominator's rationale: None of the individual members of this category were actually proposed states, i.e. intended as a sovereign government. Instead, they would better fit in Category:Settlement schemes.--Pharos (talk) 04:38, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support although the history of some countries did start out as settlement schemes, I have to agree with you that the new proposed naming is more descriptive of what is in the list. --Dan Carkner (talk) 17:37, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Newsy affiliates

Nominator's rationale: Consistency with main article's name Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:55, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It would be helpful to incorporate a source in the article not just of the name change announcement but of the actual name change. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:59, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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