Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 15

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 15, 2020.

IPhone 10

• IPhone 10 → IPhone XR  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

For reasons I cannot comprehend, there is a edit war for this redirect between iPhone X and iPhone XR. iPhone X looks like the obvious target because it's pronounced "iPhone Ten", but here we are. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:13, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

• Change redirect target back to iPhone X. iPhone 10 was created as a redirect page to iPhone X on 12 September 2017. Apparently iPhone 10 refers to iPhone X, and iPhone 10R refers to iPhone XR. --Neo-Jay (talk) 17:42, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Magwayen

• Magwayen → Magwayen Creative Scholars' Guild  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Could also refer to Madja-as#Death. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

• Keep, this can be resolved with a hatnote. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:24, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
• Keep per Rosguill. CycloneYoris ^talk! 23:08, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget or disambiguate per WP:PRIMARYRED. The god is more likely than the current target to be primary by long-term significance and usage - in particular, all the Google Books hits are about the former. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 01:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 14:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

• Retarget to Madja-as#Death while adding a hatnote linking to Magwayen Creative Scholars' Guild per IP. It is indeed the primary topic when you look at the search results in Google and DuckDuckGo. I oppose disambiguation though, as there doesn't seem to be enough notable topics with the same name for a dab. No prejudice if somebody can prove that there are more than two instances of different "Magwayens". Also, if this discussion results in a retarget, don't forget to fix the old links (like the one at Bidasari (play)). --pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 09:12, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 17:12, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

List of Nazi camps

• List of Nazi camps → List of Nazi concentration camps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Misleading redirect, as the target is more specific as to what it is a list of. There were several types of Nazi camps of which the Nazi concentration camps were only one type. A complete list covering all types of Nazi camps would need more than 44,000 entries (source), which is clearly impractical. (t · c) buidhe 12:20, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

• Keep – This is what people will be looking for when they want to know about Nazi concentration camp. --Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 12:53, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Any discussion of redirects is premature until the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Nazi extermination camps and euthanasia centers is decided and based on that a consensus is reached at the talk page discussion about how the article should be restructured at Talk:List of Nazi concentration camps#Accuracy   // Timothy :: talk  12:55, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Y

• Wikipedia:Y → Wikipedia:Help desk  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I can't figure out why this redirects to the help desk. I suggest this be retargeted elsewhere. Interstellarity (talk) 11:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

The talk page of that redirect points here as the rationale. Sam Walton (talk) 11:26, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

@Samwalton9: Do you think that the current target of the redirect is appropriate? Why or why not? Interstellarity (talk) 11:41, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Enne

• Enne → Ñ  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not sure why this exists since I never heard Ñ as Enne 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 10:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

• Delete the only connection between ñ and Enne I've found that doesn't originate from Wikipedia is this trademark but the search term for that would be "ñ enne" and it should lead to information about the trademark or the products it was used on (if either were notable, a 1 minute search suggests they aren't). Thryduulf (talk) 11:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Persecution of Christians in Nazi Germany

• Persecution of Christians in Nazi Germany → Confessing Church  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Misleading redirect. There was no generalized persecution of Christians in Nazi Germany. (t · c) buidhe 07:35, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

• Do not delete, but possibly disambiguate. There was less persecution of Christians in Nazi Germany than there was of some other groups, but the nomination statement is wrong. Articles discussing the persecution of Christians in Nazi Germany include Religion in Nazi Germany, Nazi persecution of the Catholic Church in Germany, Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses in Nazi Germany, and of course Confessing Church. We don't seem to have an article specific to Christian persecution in Nazi Germany, but readers looking for a discussion of this topic ought to be able to find something. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 08:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
• Based on the IP's comments, either a disambiguation page or broad concept article would seem appropriate here. Thryduulf (talk) 11:47, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
• Write a BCA. Other relevant articles include German Evangelical Church and Kirchenkampf. Narky Blert (talk) 12:14, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I think that the relationship between Christian church and Nazi Germany is better covered by a possible "and" type article than under the title "Persecution of Christians in Nazi Germany", which is misleading in implying that people were persecuted simply for being (any type of) Christian. Throughout Nazi Germany the vast majority of citizens were Christians, including Nazi supporters; there were Christian chaplains in the Wehrmacht and so forth. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum's article on this titled "The German Churches and the Nazi State" [1] which is a more NPOV framing. (t · c) buidhe 12:24, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Akokra Nana

• Akokra Nana → Nana Adjei Sikapa  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:57, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete - supposed target fails WP:GNG →Enock4seth ^(talk) 16:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • That's irrelevant to the redirect. If the target is deleted this can be speedily deleted (G8) but unless and until that happens this is a good redirect, now I've added a mention of the name. Thryduulf (talk) 17:22, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
• Keep. I've added a sourced reference to the name to the target. Thryduulf (talk) 17:22, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. Likely to be soon moot, judging from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nana Adjei Sikapa. Narky Blert (talk) 04:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)