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April 21

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 21, 2024.

Priscilla Sebastian

No mention of "Priscilla" or "Sebastian" at the target article. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:59, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Poop On Your Neighbor

Well uh, even with replacement words I wouldn't consider "screw" to be equivalent to "poop on", and it's not like there's a pooping variation at play discussed at the target article, either... Utopes (talk / cont) 22:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pokok

No mention of Pokok at the title, making this a confusing target. What I've found is that this is a word that can be found in various languages, which this usecase seems to be one as well. There is [1] on hu.wiki, [2] on ms.wiki, [3] on en.wikt, but even with just hu and ms wikis, without any mention of a translation it's unclear to readers which definition has a "higher priority" for an WP:RLANG. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:56, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as vague. It seems to be the term for tree for both Indonesia and Malaysia. There are a lot of partial title matches for trees or places that has the term "Pokok" in their name in en.wiki. --Lenticel (talk) 10:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Point of interaction

A "point of interaction component" is not discussed at the target article. Existed as an uncited couple-sentence stub for 14 years before being redirected into the page it was involved with, but is not actually a topic we cover on Wikipedia at this time. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plumbus

Undiscussed thing(?) from Rick and Morty not discussed at the target page. A 2016 AfD established that this thing(?) is not inherently notable, but I guess not even notable for inclusion at the target page. Not a useful redirect as an undiscussed concept, especially when it has the potential to steal searchers from OTHER articles (in this case, plumbous for lead), only to be taken to A: An article they didn't want to go to, and B: An article they're not sure why it exists, as "plumbus" never gets discussed so this doesn't even help the pure "plumbus" searchers either. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:48, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, this is WP:CRUFT. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 18:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ploopy

No mention of this term at the target article. I fear the other location this redirect has pointed at isn't much better either. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Kingdom of the Isles

A location from The Riftwar Cycle fictional universe, but not mentioned in article. Should redirect to Kingdom of the Isles, but this redirect has the history of Riftwar. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 18:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Kingdom of the Isles. A hatnote should be sufficient to send readers to other articles about topics with similar names, perhaps a disambiguation page. P Aculeius (talk) 02:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per Aculeius -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 09:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinkblood

No substantial mention of "Pinkblood" anywhere on Wikipedia; is only stated once in a citation on a different article. If this is a possibly notable group, seems to be worthwhile to keep as a red link to encourage article creation. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:59, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perry the Platypus Plumber?

No mention of this singular joke-line from the show at the target. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:56, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete, and look through the creator's other redirects, they're also mostly oddly specific phineas and ferb lines cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peodeiktophilia

Originally created as a redirect to exhibitionism before being retargeted to anasyrma, this term is mentioned at neither of the articles in question and is not something that we have good coverage on at the moment, with the only mention of this word anywhere on Wikipedia being at the List of paraphilias. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:55, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect back to exhibitionism, since this term apparently refers to sexual arousal or gratification arising from exposing one's genitals (some definitions seem to specify male genitals), while anasyrma seems to be primarily a jesting or ritual exposure of genitalia (frequently women's) in a religious context or to ward off evil. As with all nominations dealing with "the term is not mentioned in the target article", it would be a good idea to find somewhere to mention and define it within the article, thereby making renomination less likely. P Aculeius (talk) 13:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Peo" (from wikt:πέος) refers to male genitals in Greek so those definitions are more etymologically correct. In any case, exhibitionism is obviously a more appropriate target due to the "-philia" suffix. Nickps (talk) 14:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Penitent tangent

No mention of "penitent" or "tangent" at the target article. This might just be a character based on the edit summary(?) but with zero context at the target article there's no reason for people to think such, as readers are left with no context to this search term. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:51, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: This character only appears briefly in a Halo 2 cutscene with the Gravemind and is never seen again. Not worth a mention on Wikipedia. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 02:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pearland NGC

No mention of "NGC" at the target page; this title has always been a redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Utopes: NGC means "Ninth Grade Center". The article and previous revisions don't mention it, though Pearland Independent School District does. Perhaps the redirect should be retargeted to "Pearland Independent School District"? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pawanism

No mention of "Pawanism" at the target page. 7 years ago, it was said that "Pawanism isn't notable on its own, but should be discussed on Pawan Kalyan" in an edit summary. However, it is not. There are multiple people named Pawan on Wikipedia; "Pawanism" is too vague in its current state. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Parade (Jake Miller song)

No mention of this song at the target page, nor is there one at the more expectedly Jake Miller discography listing. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:46, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Panther Memorial Stadium, McBee

No longer mentioned at the target after a 2012 merge/redirect AfD closure. A high school's stadium does not need to be a redirect to the school if the stadium has no discussion at the target page, although the history may need to be dealt with. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P-hunting

The article in question does not discuss the "hunting" aspect. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:35, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:→

Ambiguous with Help:Edit summaries § Section editing. In fact, since "→" is not on most keyboards, copying it from an edit summary should be one of the most likely ways it is being searched. Also, WP:← redirects to H:AES which causes the two redirects to be inconsistent with each other. I suggest we dabify. Nickps (talk) 14:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 01:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Though I've recommended disambiguate I'd be happy to see this just redirect to AES as that is probably more likely given people see that in the history. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the talk of the proposed target Help pages.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 13:50, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Help:Edit summaries#Section editing. I cannot seriously imagine somebody typing this and expecting to get information about redirects (the redirect arrow is not a character at all, it's this image). Nobody is looking for AES with this either, because AES uses the other direction. The only case that makes any sense to me is if someone sees a section edit and copies the arrow from the edit summary into the search box, in which case we should take them to the help page on section editing. --NYKevin 01:36, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just to be clear, I never said to add AES to the dab.I just noticed that wasn't directed at me. Yeah, retargeting to AES is certainly wrong. I strongly oppose such a close. 14:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC) WP:← is its own can of worms due to {{od2}} but that's for another RfD (I've opened that RfD now)12:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC). The right arrow is absolutely used for redirects though. Examples include Special:DoubleRedirects, Special:ListRedirects and right here in RfD. What if someone copies it from there instead of an edit summary? Nickps (talk) 12:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, yet another use of the right arrow is for moving pages in WP:RM. So that's another thing we should disambiguate. Nickps (talk) 17:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment when I said WP:← redirects to H:AES which causes the two redirects to be inconsistent with each other I only meant that one refers to its arrow's usage in edit summaries and the other does not. I never wanted them to have the same target and I strongly oppose retargeting WP:→ to Help:Automatic edit summaries Nickps (talk) 16:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bioterrorism Security Assessment Alliance

Non-existing now at List of Resident Evil characters since they are not characters but a minor company. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 10:30, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Special Tactics and Rescue Service

Non-existing now at List of Resident Evil characters since they are not characters but a minor company. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 10:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nizzotch

No edit summary or rcats, confusing why this exists and had to look for myself. Apparently a nickname, although not mentioned at target and not visibly useful. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This is a corruption of Persson's usual alias of "Notch". —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Source assessment notes 15:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This is the name of Persson's (I believe now unused) Youtube channel. – dudhhr talkcontribssheher 17:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Har har

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Laughter. Good enough for me. WP:SNOW (non-admin closure) Okmrman (talk) 15:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Har Har Mahadev, Har Har Byomkesh, Har Har Gange, Lippy the Lion and Hardy Har Har, Har Har Gange (2023 film) Okmrman (talk) 04:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

can't really see ha-ha being referred to as a har har
also funny freddy fazbear laugh Okmrman (talk) 05:03, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Raja Mahendra

This redirect is to a section of the article that no longer exists. The section was added by a now-blocked sockpuppeteer, and the redirect was also provided by the sockpuppeteer. The section no longer exists, so the redirect is useless. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spray paint

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Discussion should be held via WP:RM.. (non-admin closure) Mdewman6 (talk) 03:55, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based on WP:COMMONNAME, "spray paint" seems a more suitable title of the article, and "aerosal paint" be used as a redirect. -- NotCharizard 🗨 03:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

First Battle of Siversk

Delete. Battle of Siversk was merged on the basis that there was no substantial event that would be identified by the article title (see Talk:Battle of Siversk#Merge proposal). First Battle of Siversk was created on the premise that there soon would be a "second battle". However, if there were to be a battle for this town, either now or in the future, it would not be known as either the "first" or the "second" battles. Cinderella157 (talk) 03:30, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Creek Massacre

Terrible redirect, there were numerous Foo Creek massacres, such as Indian Creek massacre, Myall Creek massacre, Waterloo Creek massacre, and on and on. Delete. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:56, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Mixed feelings, a Google search suggests that the Sand Creek massacre is by far the most common topic for the phrase, though it is never referred to without the "Sand. Perhaps Dabify? Rusalkii (talk) 02:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would only make sense to have a primary redirect or a dab page if it (or any of the others) were referred to by simply "Creek massacre". I don't believe there is evidence for that. We shouldn't have dab pages for phrases that are only partial title matches, as WP:PTMs should not be included on disambiguation pages. Mdewman6 (talk) 03:18, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is a partial title match. If this existed I would expect it to be related to the Muscogee. Kk.urban (talk) 04:15, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The closest I can find on that front is the Fort Mims massacre. -- Tavix (talk) 21:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2020 Games

The Summer Olympics are not known simply as "Games". See also Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 3#2022 Games. Mia Mahey (talk) 02:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I'll note, they are in many occasions, such as [4] [5] [6], none of which use the "summer" qualifier but do refer to the 2024 as Games. These aren't the Winter Olympics. There's the colloquial Olympics, and the Winter Olympics. The word "summer" is often dropped on most occasions when discussing the Olympics that take place in the summer, so I wouldn't consider the winter games to be on the same level. 2008 Games and 1992 Games are current redirects to their respective Olympics and have existed since 2007 and 2006, respectively. This is in conjunction with similar titles such as 2006 Winter Games and/or 2014 Winter Games as expected. These were created through AfC so I don't have a strong attachment, but if you have any alternate titles that have a higher significant usage of "2020 Games" that could be useful to note. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:48, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
disambiguate, or retarget to 2020 in slop, since it ignores the winter olympics and those other things people refer to almost exclusively as "games"
would suggest "2020 summer games", but that also seems to refer mostly to games released in the summer of 2020 cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong disagree on the summer games part, 2020 Summer Olympics has 50x more views than 2020 in games. Utopes (talk / cont) 20:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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