Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 29

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 29, 2024.

Template:R to artist

• Template:R to artist → Template:R from work  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect was created in September 2023. I'm proposing deletion, as a potentially ambiguous rcat-redirect. A redirect to an artist is not necessarily a redirect from a creative work, and I'm not aware of a more appropriate rcat template that this could be retargeted to. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 16:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Animals (2023 film)

• Animals (2023 film) → Animal (2023 Indian film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Should be retargeted to Animal (disambiguation)#Films, like Animal (film) currently, or be deleted. Per the above DAB there are two 2023 films called "Animal", so targeting one specifically is inappropriate. Additionally, neither (including the Indian film) seems to actually be called "Animals". Toadspike (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to Animal (disambiguation)#Films - this seems plausible enough a typo that a redirect to the dab doesn't seem too out there. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Source assessment notes} 16:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete as confusing, while plural and singular are often interchangeable "Animals" doesn't appear in either of the 2023 films named "Animal". Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget to Animal (disambiguation)#Films. It's a reasonable error, but redirect to the disambig page per WP:XY. 108.21.221.8 (talk) 12:29, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. There is no 2023 film entitled "Animals". Mdewman6 (talk) 04:03, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the current and proposed target talk pages.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 15:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

East Midlands Mainline

• East Midlands Mainline → East Midlands Trains  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not sure why this redirect even exists. Could also be (re)targeted to Midland Main Line (preferred) or east Midlands Railway JuniperChill (talk) 14:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Entoptic art

• Entoptic art → Psychedelic art  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"entoptic" refers to things in eyes. it's not necessarily "psychedelic", as it can (probably) refer to anything that can be seen. "entopic" isn't the right word either, as it refers to things that are in their usual places cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Wahstoronòn:ke

• Wahstoronòn:ke → Boston  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Idk the language, but there is 0 way that has ties to English, in accordance with WP:RFFL/RLOTE. Not mentioned in target, also no way someone would ever search this JuniperChill (talk) 14:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete After an extensive search, this appears to be a name for Boston in an unidentified Native American language. It does not appear to be that of the Massachusett, who inhabited the region and called it Shawmut. As such, I do not think it qualifies under RFFL. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Nintembo

• Nintembo → Nintendo  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

seemingly implausible misspelling. i did find use for it, but only on the context of shitposts cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Evil Luigi

• Evil Luigi → Waluigi  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

as opposed to "evil mario" which was nominated a few days ago, which could have referred to a good handful of characters (ironically not including wario), there is a very concrete "evil luigi", that being mr. l from super paper mario, though he's only mentioned by name in luigi's article. i'd say retarget to super paper mario and mention his name there cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete since it can plausibly refer to multiple subjects. On top of Mr. L and Waluigi, I'm sure there's other "evil" variants of Luigi that exist that could be conflated with them. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 14:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

to my knowledge, those are actually the only ones. shadoo (also from super paper mario) could maybe probably count since he takes the shapes of the main cast (funnily enough, he copies mr. l's design instead of luigi's), though i haven't been able to find any other clones or doppelgängers wanting to be the better mario brother cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

should probably clarify that i mean evil luigis, i will accept no gooigi slander in this house cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Perry the Platypus Plumber?

• Perry the Platypus Plumber? → Phineas and Ferb season 2#ep99  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Perry the Platypus Plumber → Phineas and Ferb season 2#ep99  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of this singular joke-line from the show at the target. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:56, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget to Perry the Platypus. I'm normally a stickler for WP:DABMENTION and WP:R#D8, but I think it's good enough that 1) in context, the phrase is unambiguously referring to Perry, 2) there's really no other sensible target for it, and 3) the phrase does appear in the show, rather than being some WP:MADEUP neologism. --NYKevin 01:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  The thing about this, though, is that there's basically a different variation of name every episode, and none of which are discussed at the proposed target (no mention of a plumber version of Perry). There's whole compilations of the different outcries, and I don't think we'd need Perry the Banjo-Playing Platypus either. Is basically a single-use gag, and such types of single-use gag redirects are unlikely to be useful. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 02:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  We don't need to worry about Pandora's Box here. Weighing the redirect on its own merits, the target is unambiguously correct and it's not WP:NEO as per Kevin. Worrying about it encouraging other similar redirects brings in the WP:ATA#CRYSTAL problem. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

delete, and look through the creator's other redirects, they're also mostly oddly specific phineas and ferb lines cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 12:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Peodeiktophilia

• Peodeiktophilia → Anasyrma  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Originally created as a redirect to exhibitionism before being retargeted to anasyrma, this term is mentioned at neither of the articles in question and is not something that we have good coverage on at the moment, with the only mention of this word anywhere on Wikipedia being at the List of paraphilias. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:55, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect back to exhibitionism, since this term apparently refers to sexual arousal or gratification arising from exposing one's genitals (some definitions seem to specify male genitals), while anasyrma seems to be primarily a jesting or ritual exposure of genitalia (frequently women's) in a religious context or to ward off evil. As with all nominations dealing with "the term is not mentioned in the target article", it would be a good idea to find somewhere to mention and define it within the article, thereby making renomination less likely. P Aculeius (talk) 13:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  "Peo" (from wikt:πέος) refers to male genitals in Greek so those definitions are more etymologically correct. In any case, exhibitionism is obviously a more appropriate target due to the "-philia" suffix. Nickps (talk) 14:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:40, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Pearland NGC

• Pearland NGC → Pearland High School  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of "NGC" at the target page; this title has always been a redirect. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@Utopes: Retarget: NGC means "Ninth Grade Center". The article and previous revisions don't mention it, though Pearland Independent School District does. Perhaps the redirect should be retargeted to "Pearland Independent School District"? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Possibly, although the mention at the page suggested is trivial/uncited and should probably be deleted, as there really isn't anything that we have to say about the ninth grade center. If mentioned at the high school page that's where I'd expect this title to redirect to, but it's not hence we're here. The School District might count for a mention but it's like, ehhhh. A red link might encourage someone to talk about the ninth grade center somewhere. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Public school district articles are typically expected to list all current and former schools, of which NGC would be one of them. Directives at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Schools say to redirect such non-notable U.S. public schools to school district articles. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Mi Música (album)

• Mi Música (album) → Ally Brooke  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Cannot find any evidence that such an album was ever planned to exist. There is a single of the same name, but I don't see any sources claiming an album under this name was ever meant to be released. Doesn't seem like much point in keeping a redirect for something that isn't real. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 05:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Man's red fire

• Man's red fire → Fire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Man's red flower → fire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Back from the dead and is still as useless as ever. Now anybody wanna be my guest and (not) redirect Source of all living matter to Hallucigenia. Okmrman (talk) 04:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah but anyways, it's a Deletion for me. Too trivial and WP:FANCRUFT. An even better example than the one I said before: in Harry Potter, they call a gun a Muggle's wand. Would that be a valid redirect? Okmrman (talk) 04:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Note: see recent related discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 18#Man’s red fire / flower. - Eureka Lott 06:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per prior consensus. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• With regards to the previous discussion, I just wanted to note that two of the delete !voters stated that the curly quotes present in the previously-nominated redirects (but not in these) was a reason for deletion, and that one delete !voter stated that the correct-apostrophe version can be kept. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 16:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

7.92

• 7.92 → 8 mm caliber  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• 7.92mm → 8 mm caliber  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• 7.92 mm → 8 mm caliber  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

searching it up on google doesn't result in 8 mm but it does show another bullet type Okmrman (talk) 21:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Dabify, there are quite a fair number of ammunition types and/or firearms that we have articles on, that could be targeted to. Of note are the following:
7.92x57mm Mauser
7.92×33mm Kurz
7.92×94mm Patronen
7.92×107mm DS
7.92×36mm EPK
7.92 mm Rifle Anti-Tank Mascerzek
7.92mm Bergmann MG15Na 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 23:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

oh yeah i also found out related redirect 7.92 mm. Might as well put this out there as well for you to decide on it. Okmrman (talk) 04:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. Rather than create a disambiguation page of what are probably WP:Partial title matches, improve the current target article – the appropriate section of which is already tagged {{Missing information}} – and/or the linked List of rifle cartridges. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Dabify or keep?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Probably gonna go with Dabify per Luna and redirect 7.92 mm to that disambig Okmrman (talk) 16:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Changing to Retarget per Travix Okmrman (talk) 21:01, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget to 7 mm caliber, which is for the 7.00 to 7.99 millimetres (0.2756 to 0.3146 in) caliber range. Anything at 7.92 mm should be listed there. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

  Comment Might as well bundle 7.92 mm and 7.92mm along with this Okmrman (talk) 17:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Shhhnotsoloud: What is your opinion about the 7mm target? Jay 💬 16:59, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment As the creator of the three redirects, I would note there are ambiguities due to nominal vs actual diameter. All the articles above: 7.92×57mm Mauser (commonly referred to as 8 mm), Bergmann MG 15nA machine gun (which uses 7.92×57mm Mauser), 7.92×33mm Kurz, 7.92×107mm DS, 7.92 mm Rifle Anti-Tank Mascerzek (which uses 7.92×107mm DS), 7.92×36mm EPK, and 7.92×94mm Patronen, have an actual bullet diameter greater than 8 mm. These could be included in both 7 mm caliber and 8 mm caliber. I can't seem to find any convention on this, as the 7 mm caliber has no actual diameters above 7.95, while 8 mm caliber has five cartridges with diameters of 7.9 mm. 9³ (talk) 05:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist — should 7.92 be rounded up or down (or neither)? Bundling in 7.92mm and 7.92 mm. Notifying proposed target 7 mm caliber.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Dabify per above. Partial title match or no, there are still numerous valid targets shown here. The original target can be listed among them and the task will be accomplished just fine. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Hillcrest, California

• Hillcrest, California → Hillcrest, Kern County, California  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Retarget to Hillcrest, San Diego. The San Diego neighborhood is in a large city and has three times the population of the unincorporated suburb in Kern County, so it seems more likely people would be looking for that. This has only been a redirect to its current target since January. RL0919 (talk) 02:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Revert to disambiguation page, which was the status quo from 2009 until early this year. No clear primary topic. - Eureka Lott 06:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  There are only two pages for locations in California that use the name "Hillcrest", so a dab page was never appropriate. There are more in the US overall, so potentially the redirect could be targeted to Hillcrest#United States. --RL0919 (talk) 06:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  A two-item disambiguation page can be acceptable when there's no primary topic. See WP:NOPRIMARY. That said, redirecting the page to Hillcrest#United States would also be fine with me. - Eureka Lott 06:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Redirect to Hillcrest#United States and tag as {{r from incomplete disambiguation}}. A two-page dab would be fine, but why bother when a larger dab already exists accomplishing the same task? QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Revert per Eureka Lott. The proposed retarget contains at least three "Hillcrest, Californias" and doesn't even include the current target. I think a disambiguation page would be fine in this case, since it seems there are at least four possible topics. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Forced out of US Air Force for asking about sane president

• Forced out of US Air Force for asking about sane president → Single Integrated Operational Plan#forced out  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Created by a user indeffed for creation of problematic redirects. Wikipedia is not a search engine, and I fail to see how a reasonable user would possibly think of this phrasing to find the intended content. Hog Farm _Talk 01:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 05:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Point of interaction

• Point of interaction → Point of sale  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A "point of interaction component" is not discussed at the target article. Existed as an uncited couple-sentence stub for 14 years before being redirected into the page it was involved with, but is not actually a topic we cover on Wikipedia at this time. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
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