Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Alternative education

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I'm going to fool around with Div tags tonight and see if I can make a small, unobtrusive way of displaying AE-related projects we can tackle on other WMF Projects like Wikisource, Commons and Wikibooks. I hate having sections that users must scroll past for five minutes to skip, so encourage you to help me "minimise" the visibility/irritation of the list when it's prepared by editing the Div tags and playing around with the format.Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 19:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Free Online Universities

With the rise of interest in Free Online Universities and millions of people searching for free college shouldn't Wikipedia lift the ban on articles about institutions that help the poor or minorities get free education. Many of the fake free colleges are listed but the ones that really do not charge any money are banned? 69.39.49.27 (talk) 11:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Header vs. Sidebar

Main

Members

Articles

Assessments

Discussion

WikiProject Alternative education

• Main project page
• Talk page
• Project category
• Members

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• Departments:
  • Assessment
  • Collaboration

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• Portal:
  • Education portal

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• Deletions:
  • Education deletions

I'm not sure what people prefer, a header or sidebar for project navigation. Personally I feel the sidebar has a few too many links right now (Portal:Education, Deletion sorting) that could be placed elsewhere in the project, without being necessary parts of "Project navigation", while the header provides simply the navigation around the project itself. On the other hand, the sidebar is able to use the "cute" books icon, which is more of a bonus than I'd like to admit, in my eyes. Mostly I prefer horizontal headers because I feel they "take up less room" and help reduce clutter on the page - but I welcome other opinions on the benefits/drawbacks of both models. You can see both in use at Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative education/list for the header and Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative education/Assessment for the sidebar. Can we somehow merge the two? Which style is best from which to build? Other thoughts? Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 17:43, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I actually like the sidebar on the Project mainpage, but the header on all other parts. The sidebar works well to navigate people from the project mainpage, but has too much information to be used in the assessment department, where a header would be more appropriate. Twenty Years 18:03, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Who belongs to what?

Well, I guess I came into the discussion awfully late. For The Record, let me state that it seems obvious to me that Homeschooling is a subset of Alternative Education (as are Montessori, full immersion, and several other systems), and that it was kinda silly to propose that Alternative Education be made a subset of Homeschooling. Anyway, I'm here now, but I shouldn't be, I'm actually on a Wikibreak. I will return to see how I can help in about five weeks. Cheers! Unschool (talk) 06:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

It does to most i think. Realistically, homeschooling should up-merge, a project with 70 articles isnt much of a project. Anyway, its really good to see new members. Welcome aboard :) Twenty Years 16:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I may be late to this discussion as well and it may be a moot point as the other comments here are from 2008, but as a high school alternative school teacher I must voice my strong disagreement with this wikiproject being merged into a homeschool wikiproject. That makes no sense. Ebt66 (talk) 17:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

List of homeschooled individuals

List of homeschooled individuals has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of homeschooled individuals (2nd nomination). Five Years 13:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

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Userbox

I've never done this before, but with the day off work, I've been playing with a lot of things. I've created a userbox for the AltEd project. Frankly, I don't know if there's been any activity here, so I don't expect a lot of takers, but if you want it, here it is: User:Unschool/AltEdUserbox

If I've gone about this and done it the wrong way, please a) forgive me, and b) teach me the right way to do it. I tried to make it look like the others I've seen like at Homeschooling and Higher Education—so that all the ed ones have a similar look and feel, yet also gave it a slight difference in font color to try to stand out. Anyway, there you have it. Unschool (talk) 07:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

For some reason, at least when I look at it, there's a football field worth of space between the userbox and the text below it. I don't see it when I preview, only when I save it. If someone else knows how to correct this, please do so; I'm obviously out of my element. Unschool (talk) 07:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Might be the project header templates at the top or something else random; appears to be functioning fine on user pages anyway. Nice job! Two possible suggestions: adding a black border and adding user pages to Category:WikiProject Alternative Education members

Old: {{Userbox-2 |border-c = #6495ED |border-s = 2 |id1-c = #6495ED |id1-s = 12 |id1-fc = #6495ED |id2-c = #6495ED |id2-s = 16 |id2-fc = #DFFFA5 |info-c = #6495ED |info-s = 8 |info-fc = White |id1 = [[Image:Nuvola apps bookcase.png|44px]] |id2 = AE |info = <center>'''This user is a member of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative Education|<span style="color: #DFFFA5;">WikiProject Alternative Education]]'''</font></center> }} New: {{Userbox-2 |border-c = black |border-s = 1 |id1-c = #6495ED |id1-s = 12 |id1-fc = #6495ED |id2-c = #6495ED |id2-s = 16 |id2-fc = #DFFFA5 |info-c = #6495ED |info-s = 8 |info-fc = White |id1 = [[Image:Nuvola apps bookcase.png|44px]] |id2 = AE |info = <center>'''This user is a member of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative Education|<span style="color: #DFFFA5;">WikiProject Alternative Education]]'''</font></center> }}<includeonly> {{{category|[[Category:WikiProject Alternative Education members|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}} </includeonly>

Best, --Jh12 (talk) 04:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I have no idea how to do what you've suggested, either graphically with the userbox, or in terms of the category idea. I'm just not a tech person. The only way I created that userbox was to take another one and change the colors and images. I can't do anything original. Unschool (talk) 03:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it would be better if I simply made the minor change. Message will be left at User's talk page. --Jh12 (talk) 13:01, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Alternative education

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Deletion and school projects

I see I posted this at the wrong wikiproject Deletion of teacher assigned projects Kopachuk Middle School...there has been a reply to whit that the student in order to meet his teacher's pre-requisite had to use user space rather than article space. Why invite teachers and students to learn and write articles on wikipedia if they are deleted? It seems moot. SriMesh | talk 16:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Here is another school project where the teacher has asked the kids to write about local Edmonton bands which got speedy deleted, and the kids are giving up and asking why bother with the teacher's assignment if they won't stay on wikipedia. band article deletion The articles created at this Unannouncedd class project for the most part survived AFD, and they received help from various wikipedians about manual of style to help them through the AFD nominations. SriMesh | talk 23:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject membership - Admins - coordinators

Can this Wikipedia talk:School and university projects talk page project page have membership and admins -perhaps through wikiproject Education or its child projects, Wikipedia:WikiProject Education in Australia, Wikipedia:WikiProject Education in Canada, Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities, Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools, Wikipedia:WikiProject School Years, Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative education, Wikipedia:WikiProject Homeschooling... to help find articles which come onto wikipedia as is commented upon in the deletion section above and get deleted before it is discovered they are part of a class project, so that the teacher/students can be contacted about templates etc. This message also posted at the other wikiprojects as well. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 23:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Found it ....Wikiproject Classroom coordination with coordinators, and instructions for students with contacts. Tis already made. SriMesh | talk 23:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group

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Sudbury Education merger discussions

A heads up, there are currently proposals afoot to merge the Daniel Greenberg and Sudbury school articles (discussion here), as well as merging portions of Sudbury Valley School into Sudbury school (discussion here). The latter seems a reasonable solution to duplication between the two articles, while the former is a proposed solution to claims that Daniel Greenberg is not notable. There is also discussion, though no proposals, to entirely merge Sudbury Valley School and Sudbury school. Nfitz (talk) 22:53, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Question (sincere, since I really don't know): Is Greenberg notable for anything apart from his Sudbury work. Seems from first glance that, without Sudbury, he wouldn't be notable. Is this correct? Unschool 11:53, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

• Well that's the debate really. I'd argue that he is notable for his almost 40-years of writing, speaking, etc. on education, as a published author ... and that's what separates him from the philosophy. Nfitz (talk) 03:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
• And now there is a discussion to merge the Sudbury Valley School article (rated high-importance) into the Sudbury school article (which is about the model of education, not a particular school). Discussion is here Nfitz (talk) 03:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Expanded Edit for Midpeninsula Free University artlicle

The expanded edit of the article has now been finalized. A full explanation of the edit is to be found on the discussion page of the entry for the "Midpeninsula Free University."

James Wolpman (Midpeninsula Free University) 11:45, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Call for help from sister project

Several users are trying to revive WikiProject Homeschooling and would welcome help and participation from members of this project. Discussion about the project revival can be found here. Thank you, PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 19:29, 5 June 2010 (UTC) (on behalf of WikiProject Homeschooling)

At-Risk Reorganization

What I recently did to the section entitled "At-Risk Students" on the page "Alternative School" was an effort to provide a much broader definition of what it means to be labeled as an "at-risk" student and the impact that the "at-risk" population has on education, society, and culture. I also reorganized that section so that it no longer falls specifically under the heading of "Canada," because the issue of "at-risk" is much more inclusive than that heading would make it seem.

The issue of "At-Risk Students" should be expanded to a page of its own. I recently expanded that section on this page, but that is only a start. The "at-risk" label is of much more consequence than a subheading on a page about Alternative Education. In addition to that, alternative education and the "at-risk" label are separate entities within the domain of education, especially within American Education. They are fundamentally different ideas and should be separated on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtsatterwhite (talk • contribs) 17:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Alternative education articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

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Proposed deletion of Jacob's Ladder (ropes course)

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