MediaWiki talk:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary

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{{editprotected}} Please could someone remove the first sentence from this message, leaving only the second one behind? That sentence can already be found on the edit page, in MediaWiki:edittools. There is no reason to have it repeated. -- Anxietycello (talk) 22:47, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't we move the other sentence to that message as well? It might look clearer and less cluttered that way. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:23, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delayed response -- yes, I totally agree that they would be better merged. Though, might it be better to move all the text here, and delete it from the edittools? That way the MediaWiki:edittools could be moved up on the editpage, to sit just below the edit window where it'd be more useful, instead of after the save button, which makes no sense. The text that would thus be on this page is as follows:

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-- Anxietycello (talk) 16:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd really like to see a complete list of MediaWiki messages that spit text out below the edit window, it just seems like the whole thing needs cleaned up. But for starters, I'd agree that moving that info from MW:Edittools to here makes sense; edittools should be for the edit tools and not for warning users. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 18:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be:

עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done I've merged the two messages as requested. However I think that, if this gets reverted or anyone has further ideas to improve this, we should probably move this discussion to somewhere more prominent (WP:VPP perhaps). — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:27, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to revert these changes so that it can be discussed further? I've had to shrink my edit window by 25% (down 10 lines from 40) in order to be able to see and use the MediaWiki:Edittools.js tool bar. Thanks. — Bellhalla (talk) 16:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've reverted. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was kinda hoping that the edittools could be moved up, to sit immediately after the edit window. They'd be far more useful there. (or at least swap round this MediWiki message and the edittools.) That way this page can hold the edit warnings as proposed with no upset. -- Anxietycello (talk) 11:37, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What we really need is some way to be able to change the ordering of at least a few interface messages from on-wiki, without requiring a bug report and changing it for all MediaWiki wikis, where some may not want the new ordering. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 18:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the easiest way would be to have the edittools source code in this message, and the text warnings moved into MediaWiki:Edittools, which would be an immediate fix. Though, this would of course would create a slight mess in the nomenclature. -- Anxietycello (talk) 10:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Irregards of the above discussion, my initial request is still valid[edit]

{{editprotected}} Please could someone remove the first sentence from this message, leaving only the second one behind? That sentence can already be found on the edit page, in MediaWiki:edittools. There is no reason to have it repeated. -- Anxietycello (talk) 20:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the discussion above. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 17:18, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I got that, as it was me who was having said discussion. It was this exact request that started off the thread, and the subsequent suggestions posited after are irrelevant – the sentence in original question is still repeated unnecessarily on the edit page. -- Anxietycello (talk) 02:44, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not clear there's consensus for this; feel free to re-request once that changes. Skomorokh, barbarian 10:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]