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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 19:12, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

108 Mile Ranch, British Columbia108 Mile Ranch – This place is a unique name and per Canadian disambiguation standards does not require a comma-province disambiguation. --Relisted. walk victor falk talk 06:11, 10 April 2014 (UTC)Skookum1 (talk) 04:58, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. Severely reduces recognizability with no advantage to any reader. Advocate Place, Province generally to create concistency for readers, leading to ease of recognition to settlements. 108 Mile Ranch sounds like a ranch, not a settlement. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:16, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's a dude ranch-cum-real estate development; many settlements in BC are named ranches e.g. Gang Ranch. Please read WP:CSG#Places carefully before making any more oppose votes, and also WP:UNDAB. The "concistency" [sic] you are referring to is NO comma-province dabs on unique town names; read the guidelines and have a look at the settlement categories and the Consistency section of WP:TITLE/ Skookum1 (talk) 13:44, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've read these things of course. The guideline has little rational basis. UNDAB is someone's misguide mission without reference to serving the readership. The are so many settlement ambiguities that consistency can ONLY be achieved by comma region formatting. But the clincher, unambiguously expressed in policy, is recognizability, which is severely hurt in this proposal. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:52, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Skookum1, noting that this is one of many places named according to distance from Lillooet, places the question in a different light. It would be helpful if the article explained the origin of the name. Are these places named for their distance from the Lillooet boundary, not from the Lillooet center? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:16, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The article titles policy (WP:AT) favors the shorter name per the conciseness, precision, and consistency criteria. I don't think recognizability alone (and I don't think what the opposers mean by "recognizable" matches what the recognizability criterion says) can trump those three other criteria. —seav (talk) 20:29, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:NCDAB. The statement that "108 Mile Ranch sounds like a ranch, not a settlement" doesn't really have much bearing on whether or not to keep the ", British Columbia". Either a reader already knows what 108 Mile Ranch is, in which case the ", British Columbia" is superfluous, or he doesn't, in which case the ", British Columbia" does nothing to clarify it (i.e., he still must click and read the article. On the other hand, having the ", British Columbia" is possibly misleading in that it makes it appear as if there are other 108 Mile Ranches. —  AjaxSmack  00:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.