Talk:1952 Farnborough Airshow crash

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YouTube video of crash[edit]

There's a video of the DH.110 flown by Derry at the airshow, including an interview with a spectator who saw the crash on YouTube here: [1] - it also has pictures of Derry earlier making a sonic boom over the airfield, something that wouldn't be allowed today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.40.251.153 (talk) 20:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Clarification[edit]

'The planned demonstration of the DH.110 on that day was nearly cancelled when the aircraft at Farnborough, an all-black night fighter prototype, became unserviceable.' Could this be explained a bit more clearly? Valetude (talk) 15:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure all the clarification can be found in the source, feel free to explain it more clearly here. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
The aircraft that was planned to be flown in the demonstration was the black-painted nightfighter DH.110. For some reason it wasn't fit to fly, so instead they brought the other DH.110 over to Farnborough and used that. GraemeLeggett (talk) 16:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that until I just fixed it right now, the text didn't make clear that the "all-black night fighter prototype" and WG 236 were two separate aircraft. I ask you three people - when were you going to fix this? Were you biding your time? Waiting until there was a slot in your diary? This is a problem that affects a tonne of aviation articles on Wikipedia. The editors are aviation nerds who (a) can't write (b) don't understand that the general audience aren't aviation nerds. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 17:16, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Fixed. Added serial of second aircraft - WG 240

Witness[edit]

It seems slightly absurd to me, as well as in poor taste, to quote a witness, Richard Gardner, who was 5 years old at the time talking about "silver confetti" floating down (the plane was painted black). There is film of the incident clearly showing what happened, and plenty of other witness testimony from adults who were there, so why include a small child's statement as the only witness for this article?Gillartsny (talk) 00:07, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to improve the article yourself, this is Wikipedia after all! The Rambling Man (talk) 06:51, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
WG263 was in a silver or light finish, not black. I don't see it as poor tastes. I believe the statement is illustrative of what happened, and the effect on those present. Nothing wrong with retaining it, though could be moved to a quotebox.GraemeLeggett (talk)

11:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm about to add another witness statement, that of author Moira Bremner. She was clearly traumatised by an horrific incident and will remember it vividly for the rest of her life. Re silver confetti, it sounds like chaff but I wouldn't expect chaff which contains explosive to be loaded in a non-combat situation. JRPG (talk) 11:29, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@Gamebuster19901: Although fully aware of copyright rules, I was somewhat surprised that you completely removed Bremner's story as it really didn't seem excessively long. The recording itself is very emotional as she relives a truly terrifying moment which the Today program's 7 million listeners may well want to hear it again. Anyway, its about half the original length now. If you want to alter it further, could you please give reasons in accordance with WP:BRD. Regards JRPG (talk) 20:49, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

I believe the referenced text giving the mechanism of the disaster should be included in the text, my father who was an engineer working on the tail plane was very clear that the failure induced stall contributed greatly to the catastrophie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.31.202.145 (talk) 09:45, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I, Christopher Aitken, must have been very close to Moira Bremner in 1952. This is what I remember. I was 6.5 years old with excellent hearing and eyesight. The DH110 broke the sound barrier then turned and approached from our left side. As it got virtually opposite us and Observation Hill it went into a steep climb. As it climbed great cracks started to appear all over the fuselage. The cracks become bigger. All the fuselage was cracking up, not the wings or tailpiece. The DH110 then blew apart as it continued to rise. One of the engines hurtled passed just above us and then crashed into Observation Hill. It was so close that you could feel the heat from it as it went past. Other parts dropped near us some injuring spectators who were not on the hill. Then there was this eerie silence followed by a showering of silver parts. The next thing I recall was a tannoy announcement for any doctors and medical staff amongst the spectators to please go to an assembly point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancing Brave (talkcontribs) 16:57, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your contribution, to add something to the article it really needs to have been published and a new citation added to the article as it is not mentioned in the BBC article. MilborneOne (talk) 07:57, 10 July 2016 (UTC)