Talk:1971 Łódź strikes

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Did you know... that the 1971 Łódź strikes were the only industrial action in pre-1980 Communist Poland that ended with workers' success?

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File:Striking women demonstration in Łódź, 1971.jpg

I just removed the picture as it probably shows not strike but so called "hunger demonstration" from 1981 not 1971. You could see on picture a car - Fiat 126 - which was produced in Poland from 1973 (and in Italy from 1972), so for sure it is not possible to be on street in Lodz in 1971. Also - just check that you could see exactly the same people and banners as on this movie: [1].

Polimerek (talk) 17:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No original research please. The same photo is featured at http://lodz.wyborcza.pl/lodz/1,35153,17382875,Rocznica_strajku_lodzkich_wlokniarek__ARCHIWALNE_ZDJECIA_.html

Quote from Wyborcza: Może nie pamiętamy o strajku z 1971 roku, bo nikt w nim nie zginął? - zastanawia się Marta Madejska, pomysłodawczyni obchodów o zapomnianym proteście łódzkich włókniarek. Od wtorku do walentynkowej soboty (10-14 lutego) w Świetlicy Krytyki Politycznej (ul. Piotrkowska 101) będzie trwała akcja "Kochamy łódzkie włókniarki".

Cały tekst: http://lodz.wyborcza.pl/lodz/1,35153,17382875,Rocznica_strajku_lodzkich_wlokniarek__ARCHIWALNE_ZDJECIA_.html#ixzz49sg8Scsc

Poeticbent talk

THe problem is that it obvious that description in Gazeta Wyborcza is wrong. The car - Fiat 126 is the best and obvious proof of this. Polimerek (talk) 18:14, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dear User:Polimerek, you know better than that. Your claim is based entirely on WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH. Please contact the publisher if you wish to contest the official description of what the WP:RS print. Don't argue your point here in English Wikipedia, please. Thanks in advance, Poeticbent talk 18:20, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, fact are facts. The car which is in the right bottom corner of the picture is Fiat 126. It was first produced in 1972 in Italy and then in 1973 in Poland. These facts are well sourced in Fiat 126 article. Please read it, than compare pictures of the car. A journalist mixed up this picture with the real pictures of 1971 strike, and now we repeat this obvious mistake. This is quite obvious that the car first produced in 1973 could not be seen in 1971 on street. Of course you can ignore such an obvious fact. Feel free to follow journalist obvious mistake. Shame for Wikipedia, but well.. Seems we must live with this. Polimerek (talk) 18:34, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth Poeticbent talk 18:44, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I agree with User:Polimerek here. Repeating a newspaper mistake may be verifiable but if we can clearly see it is wrong it is, simply, stupid. PS. Since the image is likely to be deleted soon as orphaned fair use, and links above require subscription, here's a link to the image in question bypassing current paywalls/etc.: [2] --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:45, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]