Talk:2018 WTA Finals

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Tables for Round Robin standings

Should there not be tables for the Round Robin standings? It's standard practice on other tournament articles, like 2018 FIFA World Cup, and the WTA publishes the standings here. There is a long, involved Format section that explains how a player progresses to the semis, if you're a total sports nerd or you have an IQ of 150, but for an ordinary Joe like me it's hard to see clearly how Cibulkova in 2016 won just one of her three matches, and still won the tournament. A table would make it clear in an instant. @GAThrawnIGF, Yimingbao, M9154, AdiMind, Dencod16, and Xperiaray610: pinging the main contributors to this article. Scolaire (talk) 13:15, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Irshav: I missed you when I was pinging. Scolaire (talk) 15:27, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm crap at making tables. If anyone wants to improve on them, please do. Scolaire (talk) 15:11, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Scolaire: In the given link on WTA, the only thing missing is percentage of sets and games win-loss ratio (which was always added in those tables on Wikipedia but this year nobody did that). So if I add them, what else is missing then? The only thing that could also make the tables better is making them sortable. But I guess it should be discussed first? Xperiaray610 (talk) 17:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Xperiaray610: I didn't have any idea what you were talking about until I dragged down to the very bottom of the articles and discovered links to separate articles. I had been scrolling through the 2018, 2017 and 2016 articles every day for a week, looking for some indication of where players finished, or were going to finish, in the round robin, and never saw that there was a link to another article hidden away at the end! I don't know why the info shouldn't be added to this article, when the result of every match is there. There is (was) even a table already there, with the names of the four players in each group. Why not add the information there, instead of sending the reader on a wild goose chase? It's practically nothing extra in terms of text. And it shouldn't be sortable. It should be in order of finishing, as it is in any football, rugby or any other tournament with a round robin stage. The seeding is already shown elsewhere. Scolaire (talk) 18:34, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]