Talk:Sinking of the Zico

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On 13 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2024 Mozambique boat disaster to Sinking of the Zico. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 13 April 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Clear consensus to move; rough consensus to move without disambiguation. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 12:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Mozambique boat disaster → ? – Mozambique is quite a big place. Surely we can get more specific. I am not familiar with the region, however, and will let more informed editors decide on a new name. Bremps... 03:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about Sinking of the Zico? 3df (talk) 11:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support That wouldn't be a bad name. It would be consistent with the Sinking of the Titanic or the Sinking of the MV Sewol. Bremps... 17:06, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought the "the" must be discussed. Bremps... 00:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support However I think we should alter this slightly to Sinking of the ''Zico'' (Mozambique) as the Zico is not a famous ship and another boat might carry that name. Enoryt nwased lamaj (talk) 21:51, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If/when another Zico sinks we should change the name. As it stands, there is no need per WP:DAB. Bremps... 00:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above. Aaron Liu (talk) 00:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support the current title is too broad. This title would be appropriate for an unnamed ship, but with a named vessel in this case we should use it. An example of when the more broad "boat disaster" should be used is last year's Kwara boat disaster. Yeoutie (talk) 18:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Counter-examples exist, e.g. the 2023 Messenia migrant boat disaster where date and location are used, despite knowledge of the boat's name... Yadsalohcin (talk) 17:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Current title is fine and recognizable for people who want to search for this event, both in the present and future. The boat's name is not recognizable, at least for now. If there are other Mozambique boat disasters in 2024, a discussion can be restarted. Neocorelight (Talk) 02:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mozambique is a big country and I don't see how it's more recognizable than the boat's name. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course a country is more recognizable than a boat. People can read the article itself if they want to know the specifics. Neocorelight (Talk) 22:39, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At least to me the country name is not more recognizable at all, and the proposed title is much more concise. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:04, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Current title is fine- at least Mozambique narrows down the location of the 'boat disaster' a bit; unless you're already familiar with the topic, the boat's name is meaningless.Yadsalohcin (talk) 07:24, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Sinking of the Zico. Completely unambiguous. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Current name is clear and unambiguous (unless or until there is another boat disaster in Mozambique this year). It headlines the most likely search term for readers. Davidships (talk) 02:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Mozambique, WikiProject Transport, WikiProject Ships, WikiProject Transport/Maritime transport task force, WikiProject Disaster management, WikiProject Africa, and WikiProject Shipwrecks have been notified of this discussion. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to Sinking of the Zico. The current title isn't bad, but the suggested title is better. Mjroots (talk) 06:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Enoryt nwased lamaj. Change to Sinking of the Zico (Mozambique).Tamsier (talk) 08:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Sinking of the Zico. Jebiguess (talk) 21:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The current title is sufficiently WP:PRECISE while still maintaining a wide level of WP:RECOGNIZABILITY – for instance, almost all of the cited sources' headlines identify the disaster as occurring simply in "Mozambique." The ship's name is not widely enough known to be helpful to readers. No objection to making Sinking of the Zico into a redirect. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Please generate a clearer consensus on: 1. Sinking of the Zico (Mozambique) 2. Sinking of the Zico. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IMO the parenthetical is unnecessary disambiguation. It's also longer than the current title. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The ship's name doesn't strike me as sufficiently recognizable to carry the title. When I Google Zico I get pages about a rapper and an athlete. The year and location are more often used in media headlines. Killuminator (talk) 00:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Page has been semi-protected for a few days. In the event this sort of vandalism happens in the future, it may be reported directly to WP:AIV for administrators to address. —C.Fred (talk) 18:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I think this page needs to be protected. I see someone putting more than "100 very lucky people" in the casulaties. Sapnor (talk) 13:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sapnor seconded commie (talk) 13:06, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Note that the usual place to make such a request is WP:RfP. Cheers! Aaron Liu (talk) 13:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]