Talk:A Quiet Place Part II/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Requested move 5 July 2019

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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) — Newslinger talk 23:02, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Untitled A Quiet Place sequel → A Quiet Place 2 – Per WP:CONCISE, unnecessarily wordy compared to writing "A Quiet Place 2" like reliable sources say. Google News shows as "highly cited" the ComingSoon.net article titled "A Quiet Place 2 Sneaks Into Production". Furthermore, the current wordier title presumes by default that the sequel's title will be something other than A Quiet Place 2. This presumption may apply for some franchises, but here, we have no idea what the titling goal will be. Let's apply the KISS principle here. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:14, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Support per nom. The current title will become obsolete as soon as the film is given a proper title and in time will almost certainly end up at WP:RfD like so many others have; perhaps the naming conventions for films need to be looked at to discourage this sort of thing? "A Quiet Place 2" is a pefectly fine and more concise placeholder title which, as noted by the nom, is used in sources but would also remain a valid redirect even if the film ends up being called something else. PC78 (talk) 10:58, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

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Requested move 29 July 2019

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The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 14:30, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

A Quiet Place 2 → A Quiet Place: Part II – A little while ago, Krasinski announced the filming of the sequel with the subtitle "Part II" in a Twitter post. There have been a couple of attempted changes to the article title to use this, but I reverted it as unofficial. Now it appears that three very reliable sources all write "A Quiet Place: Part II", so I am requesting a move:

Variety: "Krasinski is in place to write and direct 'A Quiet Place: Part II.'"
The Hollywood Reporter: "Krasinski is currently at work on A Quiet Place: Part II, the sequel to the horror hit he directed and co-wrote."
Deadline Hollywood: "He is returning to write and direct A Quiet Place: Part II, which will hit theaters in March 2020."

Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:59, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Support per nom. You've gone incognito (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:11, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

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Title update

Deadline Hollywood calls the film A Quiet Place Part II here, so there may be uncertainty about whether or not a colon belongs in the title. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 18:23, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Now Variety says here that it is a "still-untitled movie". Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 18:45, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

I saw the clapperboard used during filming on Kransinski's Instagram post and saw the title as simply "Part II", which probably is the official title. You've gone incognito (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I agree that it has an official role in organizing the production, but that does not necessarily mean it will be the film's official title. It just seems like the above three sources got the same memo and wrote A Quiet Place: Part II, where the latest Variety piece (by a different author) seems to have not realized that titling. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

To update on this front, the teaser trailer gives the title A Quiet Place with the subtitle Part II. Per MOS:TITLEPUNCT, Where subtitle punctuation is unclear (e.g. because the subtitle is given on a separate line on the cover or a poster), use a colon and a space, not a dash, comma, or other punctuation, to separate the title elements." Since the colon has been used in reliable sources, we can lock in A Quiet Place: Part II as the article title. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:39, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Scott Sullivan 1997, see above. Your move was inappropriate. Number 57, as the closing admin, can you please fix this? Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 18:32, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Scott Sullivan 1997, if you want to push for excluding a colon, start a new WP:RM discussion. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 18:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 18 December 2019

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 05:30, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

A Quiet Place: Part II → A Quiet Place Part II – Should the article title exclude the colon? Both the teaser trailer and the poster show "Part II" as distinct from "A Quiet Place". Per MOS:TITLEPUNCT, "Where subtitle punctuation is unclear (e.g. because the subtitle is given on a separate line on the cover or a poster), use a colon and a space, not a dash, comma, or other punctuation, to separate the title elements." Paramount Pictures's YouTube page here shows "A Quiet Place Part II" in its post of the trailer. Is this sufficient, or is social-media posting too premature to rely on? Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 19:01, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

It might be too premature. Maybe wait for a few secondary news source to use this title depiction. Cardei012597 (talk) 23:41, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Even if it is "too early" we should at least go with the title Paramount is providing us with. Not with the one some idiot on Wikipidea decicded was the title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott Sullivan 1997 (talk • contribs) 01:34, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Scott, you would do well to review WP:CIVIL. The inclusion of the colon is driven by Wikipedia's policies and use in reliable sources. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 14:39, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Is there some way to check the films copyrighted name?★Trekker (talk) 12:39, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- The 2018 film does not appear to be in the U.S. Copyright Office database. The sequel does not appear to be in the WGA database. Based on all of this, I am also inclined to say wait.... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:11, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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Dekimasu, Scott Sullivan 1997 defied consensus to override this RM discussion. Can this please be addressed? Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 01:20, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 27 January 2020

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The result of the move request was: page moved (non-admin closure) ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 19:27, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

A Quiet Place: Part II → A Quiet Place Part II – The official trailer, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and website all have the title without the colon. Many other movies do this. Such as: Back to the Future Part II and The Godfather Part II. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott Sullivan 1997 (talk • contribs) 18:25, January 27, 2020 (UTC)

Support per the multiple official sources excluding the colon which reflects intentionality and consistency. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 18:45, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Support; looks like the sources cited in the article also call it either A Quiet Place 2 (clearly informal, not the actual title) or A Quiet Place Part II (never with colon). BegbertBiggs (talk) 20:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Support removing needless invented colons on Wikipedia. Axem Titanium (talk) 22:47, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

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"Untitled A Quiet Place sequel" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Untitled A Quiet Place sequel. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Regards, SONIC678 18:54, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of A Quiet Place (film series) for deletion

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Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 22:24, 20 January 2021 (UTC)