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This article is part of the Age of consent series of articles project.

In the interest of accuracy and quality it was decided by consensus^* to hold these pages to a high standard of verification and to avoid ambiguity through the use of prose (not dot points) discussing the relevant statutes, case law or other authorities.

To this end all information must be properly referenced. Where writing about legislation or other law, the appropriate statutes and similar must be cited. Where appropriate, portions of the legislation can be quoted. Where possible, a link to an up-to-date online copy of the legislation can be included (preferably, but not necessarily, in English). It is preferable to include any such references in-line, rather than in a separate <ref> section at the bottom of the page. This is to make it easier for readers to find the references in context.

The unfettered age of consent should be in bold text, in order that it stand out. No other ages should be in bold text. Any exceptions to should then be discussed afterwards (close in age exceptions, same sex relations etc).

For an example of a properly formatted article see the Ages of consent in Australia and Oceania.

*(The original age of consent formatting discussions began here)

The articles in this group are	Helpful repositories of legislation
Age of consent Age of consent reform Ages of consent in Africa Ages of consent in Asia Ages of consent in Oceania (including Australia) Ages of consent in Europe Ages of consent in North America Ages of consent in the United States Ages of consent in South America Age of consent in Brazil List of countries by age of consent	Worldlii: Global Austlii: Australia Bailii: Britain and Ireland Canlii: Canada Commonlii: Commonwealth Cylaw: Cyprus Droit: French HKlii: Hong Kong	Juri Burkina Cornell law NZlii: New Zealand Paclii: Pacific Islands Saflii: Southern Africa

Please note that ageofconsent.com is not an acceptable reference as it has not been updated since 2002.

Ausrtralia

General reference for Australia from AFAO updating the now dead links in the section Australia//Federal laws but note they don't cover Federal law. http://www.afao.org.au/library/topic/youth/AFAO_Fact_sheet_Age_of_Consent_Laws_in_Australia.pdf Ericglare (talk) 09:03, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Queensland

Added a link to Queensland's use of carnal knowledge as many people (including me at first) may have no idea what it is. (Angeles 10:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]
Made clear the reference of sodomy in relation to anal sex, as sodomy is a much broader subject. (Angeles 10:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]
Advisable not to use sodomy to describe an act; use specific terms that fit legal definitions best like anal sex, anal intercourse or anal penetration (which would include by thing not just anatomy)noting the meaning in context as all 3 can be distinguished by subtle differences.Ericglare (talk) 09:03, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Added that the in the case of difference in age being used as a defense of sexual relations with a person under the age of 16 in the ACT that it can be 2 years or less, not just in the case of a difference of 2 years which was previously stated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.106.69.136 (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should it be made clear that section 349 of the criminal code states (2) A person rapes another person if--

   (a) the person has carnal knowledge with or of the other person without the other person's consent; or

   (b) the person penetrates the vulva, vagina or anus of the other person to any extent with a thing or a part of the person's body that is not a penis without the other person's consent; or

   (c) the person penetrates the mouth of the other person to any extent with the person's penis without the other person's consent.

(3) For this section, a child under the age of 12 years is incapable of giving consent.

Shouldn't this be mention in relation to age of consent (specifically c)

Hawaii

See discussion at Talk:Ages of consent in North America. Dansiman (talk|Contribs) 06:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aust. start class

While over all the article is B class, the sections on Australia are no more than stubs linking to legislation. Gnan garra 11:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vanuatu revised penal code

Penal Code (Amendment) Act 2006 repeal the section 99. It reads "No person shall commit any homosexual act with a person of the same sex under 18 years of age, whether or not that person consents. Penalty: Imprisonment for 2 years." http://www.paclii.org/vu/legis/num_act/pca2006167/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.12.171.218 (talk) 16:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect links

the links in Australia, Federal Laws, all the references link to a 404 error... what's up? Iamstupido (talk) 08:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this a low importance Page... serious consequences can arise from misinformation here!

In reply to the person talking about the age in victoria. It is 16+. s48(1) refers to when an adult is also a supervisor (like a teacher, policeman etc) then they must be married to them in order to have sex with a 16-17 year old. For everyone else it's 16+ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.191.1.52 (talk) 09:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

a lot of people might use this page as the sole guide to determining whether or not to engage in sexual relations with a person who may be <16, 16-17 or 18+ each of these age groups have their own strict set of laws which require a more accurate interpretation of the law.

For example, the Victorian law (Crimes Act 1958 S46 stated it was legal to have sex with anyone who was 16+. This is correct however, S48(1) goes on to say that it is only legal to have sex with someone between 16-17 if you are married to them.

This was potentially misleading people in to believing on first instance that sex with a person between and including 16-17 was legal if they were NOT married. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.69.145 (talk) 16:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This page should be deleted. Wikipedia shouldn't be a travel guide for sex tourists. 170.213.131.190 (talk) 22:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what cave you're currently residing in, but an enlightened society prospers on the propagation of knowledge. 19:45, 28 December 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.98.71 (talk)

Introduction's issues

Currently of generally poor quality such as "across Australia, New Zealand and Oceania" when the former 2 are part of the latter.

Re: "In some places, there is crime only when a penetration is involved, so women are automatically exonerated." Obviously it takes two people to achieve consented penetration and both are subject to consent law whether one or both are women or not. Penetration needs defining as oral sex (penile, vaginal or anal) most often involves penetration but might not be what is defined as such by law and I suspect most times excludes oral sex. Unfortunately despite frequent use of the term penetration there is no discussion or explanation what that means in various jurisdictions in the article here or on the more general pages on age of consent - didn't we learn anything from the Bill Clinton fiasco? If penetration does exclude oral sex then the preferred term should be 'sexual intercourse' or 'vaginal and anal sex'. There needs to consistent information delivery using Wiki page-defined terms rather than resorting to terms used in a state's law that vary by jurisdiction. Formal educational resources for young people might be better references than the criminal code. At the moment this page is subject to personal interpretation and that isn't legally or socially responsible. Ericglare (talk) 08:04, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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New Zealand

NZ section contains misleading information. NZ did not adopt a gender neutral age of consent until adoption of the Crimes Amendment Act 2005 http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2005/0041/latest/DLM346175.html Homosexual law reform in 1987 made it possible for a male to have sex with another male from age 16. This brought homosexuality in line with the age of consent for girls. Up to 2005, there was no age of consent for boys having heterosexual sex with girls of legal age. Text in main article amended to correct information originally published, which said NZ had been neutral as regards gender and orientation since homosexual law reform of 1987. It had not until 2005. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.61.202.129 (talk) 00:46, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]