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"Features" - Luxury Suites[edit]

I think we need a source for this information. I could be wrong, but I don't think there were ever any proposals to have 66 luxury boxes in the dome. Additionally, I think all luxury boxes were built, but only those on the north end of the facility were leased to individuals for the NBA season.

"The Alamodome has 38 luxury suites and 6,000 club level seats. The original design specifications called for 66 luxury suites. But since the San Antonio Spurs were the only occupant at the time, only 38 luxury suites in the north end of the facility were built (where the basketball court was placed, and a curtain separated it from the south end). The footprints for the 28 unbuilt luxury suites are now open floor space just behind the club level seats that surround the south end of the facility."

IceBRG 06:17, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I can confirm that the dome's design included 66 suites. The shells for the other 28 suites (Sections 215–217, 220–226, 229–232; two suites per section: A and B) can clearly be made out in the current floorplan. If you walk on the club level, you will notice where the suites were to be built when you pass a section with suites to a section without them. You will quickly realize how it is such a waste of space when you see it with your own eyes. Those shells are now open floor space just behind the club seats. Yes, only 38 were built (Sections 201–204, 207–210, 214, 233–239, 242–244; two suites per section: A and B) for the Spurs, in the north end where the basketball court was, but some were still behind the curtain and weren't used during basketball games. The club-level suites in the following pic are dark green.
Alamodome football.jpg
Clipper471 14:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. My confusion was in how I interprited the aritcle. I reads as though the original design was changed, but it appears it hasn't. Although I have not seen HOK's original drawings for this project, typically space allocated for these functions are, much like retail space in a shopping mall, considered tenant improvements. Not building them out at the time of construction is not considered a change to the plans. I would suggest revising the article top read similar to this:

The building is configured for 66 luxury boxes, but to this date only 38 have been built out. The square footage allocated for the other 28 remain as 'shell' space.

Just a thought.

IceBRG 01:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Update: The 2006 Alamo Bowl media guide (see reference 1 in the article) indicates that the Alamodome underwent an expansion in 2006 to accommodate 14 new luxury suites, increasing the number of suites to 52. Until I can get more information, I can only "logically" assume at this point that the 14 new suites were built in the only 7 seating sections on the sidelines that did not have the suites (215, 216, 217, 229, 230, 231, 232), two suites per section (A and B) as was built in the other sections that have suites. If these locations are correct, this means that the 7 south endzone sections are the only sections that remain without suites (220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 225, 226). Clipper471 19:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you include the above model in the article it would really help the overall quality of the article. Quadzilla99 23:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I added it if somebody could breakdown the different colors and explain it that would be greatly appreciated. Quadzilla99 00:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
The image does not include the new suites that were added in summer 2006. Also, this is the football configuration. There are other configurations as well.Clipper471 00:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I see nice work anyhow. Quadzilla99 01:49, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Events and Tenants - 2006 ELCA Youth Gathering[edit]

Listing of individual conventions held in the facility seems excessive. Should this item be removed?

"From July 5 to 16, 2006, the Alamodome hosted the 2006 ELCA Youth Gathering. Approximately 40,000 youth and adult leaders attended the event between the two weeks it was spread."

IceBRG 06:17, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

FieldTurf[edit]

I have read several articles that Texas-based Sportfield, LLC, makers of "Real Grass" Turf, installed the new Alamodome's artificial turf in 2002. I could not find any information on Motreal-based FieldTurf installing a playing surface in the Alamodome. Can anyone verify? IceBRG 01:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

According to page 16 of the 2006 Alamo Bowl media guide (see article reference), the 2004 renovations included the new SportField. Clipper471 10:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

UTSA usage[edit]

If the local university (University of Texas at San Antonio) decided to field a football team, how much of a stadium would they use? They would be Division 1-AA, so at least the upper deck wouldn't be needed.--BigMac1212 03:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

First paid event?[edit]

The Alamodome had its opening ceremony on May 15, 1993. The 1993 U.S. Olympic Festival was held in and around San Antonio in July and August 1993. The Alamodome held the opening and closing ceremonies, as well as some events such as ice skating. But wasn't the first paid event the Paul McCartney concert on May 29, 1993? Clipper471 07:53, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

A search of the SAEN archives (briefs only) seems to point to the McCartney concert as the inaugural event for the Alamodome, with a crowd that numbered more than 47,000. Can anyone verify this was the first paid event? Clipper471 08:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Event attendance data[edit]

  • I'm continuing to research the largest crowds for the facility. Some I'm looking for information on include the three San Antonio Spurs championship celebrations (1999, 2003, 2005). I'm also looking into the 1999 NBA Finals Game 2 attendance (39,554) to see if it is the largest "home" crowd for a Spurs game. Clipper471 19:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • The March 14, 1998, Bulls/Spurs game set the Spurs' regular-season attendance record (37,492) according to Fox Sports Net. Clipper471 20:00, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Anonymous edits from 11 July 2007[edit]

I am not sure how to revert back to the previous version, but I would suggest eliminating the edits from 11 July. They simply make the opening paragraph incoherent and place too much emphasis on the project's contractor. I have noticed several articles where someone has inserted Lyda/Swinerton into articles in San Antonio. Seems self serving to me. Typically you would list the architect or designer in an encyclopedic volume rather than the contractor.IceBRG 16:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

New Attendance Record[edit]

There is a new attendance record, here is one source for this: http://www.sbrforum.com/Recaps/NCAAF/20071229NCAAFTEXASAM---0.aspx Anyone care to edit this in? 12.193.185.2 (talk) 07:00, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. Feel free to fix it up some more. Kuru talk 14:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

If the Texas A&M and Penn State game holds the current Alamo Bowl attendance record then why mention the Texas and Iowa game that previously held the record? Maybe on a page for the Alamo Bowl, but why the Alamodome? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.50.227.12 (talk) 01:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

The acoustics[edit]

I saw the Rolling Stones there back in the 90's, and the acoustics were horrible: i was at mid distance from the stage, and all i heard was a cacophony of the music from the stage mixed with the (delayed) echo from the back. I was quite upset with the Stones for playing there and charging us for it.

Now the article has it that "the audio system" was upgraded in 2007 (i'm not sure that music acts use the in-house for-sports-events audio system). So, are the acoustics better now ? Because i ain't gone back to that place since. --Jerome Potts (talk) 12:53, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Costs/constuction history[edit]

How much did the Alamodome cost to build? How much of that was paid for by taxpayers, and how much by private individuals? If San Antonio is discussing luring a new NFL franchise with new or renovated stadiums, this information would be welcome. Ben (talk) 15:27, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

As noted in the article, the final tab was $186.3m. This was largely funded by a voter-approved 1/2 cent sales tax increase, if i recall correctly. The dome was paid off shortly after opening; not sure if the sales tax was ever reduced or simply re-allocated for other purposes. Kuru (talk) 17:22, 19 January 2016 (UTC)