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Bethel not an at-risk school

The article claims that John Thompson visited Iverson at Bethel High School, a high school in Hampton for at-risk kids that drop out of other schools. This is completely wrong. Bethel High School is the same as any other public high school in Hampton.

The error probably stems from the fact that Iverson finished his schooling at Richard Milburn, an alternative high school in Virginia Beach that meets the description.

Sources:

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1994/vp940905/09050132.htm

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1994/940604/06040390.htm

63.148.72.226 19:42, 2 November 2007 (UTC)Joe

nickname

his nickname is Bubba Chuck —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lex23669 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 17 November 2007 (UTC) |talk]]) 18:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

1993 controversy

What "controversy" occurred in 1993? There is no detail as to what "incident" occurred. Somatosis (talk) 01:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

== vanquif quif quif quif quifUser:Asad sayeed added nonsense to the page. Can someone remove it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Occurshift (talk • contribs) 01:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Someone needs to edit the player profile portion of this wiki. Iverson doesn't have a higher career A/TO ratio than Kobe or Lebron. He has never been close to being one of the league leaders in FT%. There's also some clear bias there, "one of the most dominant players in NBA history" "one of the best guards because he's played in 7 all-star games".. This wiki needs to be cleaned up 70.136.74.20 (talk) 01:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hoyas Who Left Early for the NBA

The article states that The Answer was the first of two people who left Georgetown early for the NBA under Coach Thompson. I don't think that's correct. As I recall, Michael Graham left Georgetown after his freshman year (1984?) to take a shot at the NBA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.98.229.170 (talk) 20:12, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I Love College

He Was Mentioned In The Song "I Love College by Asher Roth, Shouldn't That Be Mentioned In His Page?

Seriously? This isn't the first time he's been name checked in a song lyric, and probably won't be the last. And it's not like Roth is even talking about Iverson - the "Allen Iverson, Hakeem Olajuwon" line is a non sequitur to facilitate a rhyme with "I am champion at beer pong". So yeah, seriously?
Think of it this way. I seriously doubt Iverson's life, or people's regard for him changes in anyway because Asher Roth name-dropped him. --Mosmof (talk) 06:12, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

"player for the Detroit Pistons" or "Free agent"?

The 1st sentence claims Iverson plays for Detroit Pistons, but according to the Infobox he's a Free agent. Isn't this a little confusing? Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 10:59, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

went looking for his wife?

this seems to conveniently miss the details of this "looking for his wife" at a cousin's house, including the subsequent criminal charges75.84.53.112 (talk) 21:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC) k —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.151.104 (talk) 01:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Retirement?

I see there have been a few edits since the news came out about Iverson's retirement, but here's the thing: he's not actually retired. He's only announced plans for retirement, not his actual retirement. There's probably no doubt that he will retire in the coming days or weeks, but he's not retired yet. This may seem like splitting hairs, but if we're going to play by rules by WP:V and such, it's a key distinction to make.

Read the opening sentence in the release posted on the Stephen A. Smith blog: "I would like to announce my plans to retire from the National Basketball Association" (emphasis mine). Plus, an NBA player isn't actually retired until he files his retirement papers with the league (though some, like Keith Van Horn don't formally retire for cap reasons).

I'm going to be bold and change the wording to something like "Iverson announced plans to retire on writer Stephen A. Smith's blog" and change his status to "free agent". --Mosmof (talk) 04:17, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

editsemiprotected request

November 25th, 2009 Allen Iverson RETIRED, thus completing his NBA career. Source: ESPN.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by UgaDawg80 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Return to Philadelphia 76ers for a second stint

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Allen Iverson will be returning to the club that drafted him in 1996. Sixers president Ed Stefanski announced the signing on the team's Web site. Iverson is expected to make his debut against the Denver Nuggets. [1]


Chanyi (talk) 15:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Not done: Welcome and thanks for wanting to improve this article. The {{editsemiprotected}} template requires a 'Please change X to Y' level of detail. If you leave off the template, one of your fellow editors interested in this page may take up the task, or you can detail what to insert where and re-transclude the template. Cheers, Celestra (talk) 20:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Javie vendetta and Tim Donaghy

NWWA.rep, the problem with your edit is that you're taking out material that comes from a reliable source and replacing it with assertions not supported by anyone and the statement . No one is "turning a blind eye on stern and his effort to stop the publication". In fact, there is absolutely no way to verify that Stern tried to stop the publication. The league denies it (obviously), and Random House/Triumph Books is on record saying there was no pressure from the NBA, and it declined to publish the book because, basically, they couldn't factcheck it - unless you're suggesting the NY Times is being a bit fat liar, these are verified facts.

If nothing else, I'm reverting your edit since the changes you made are either unsupported by sources or factually incorrect: the Deadspin excerpts never mention that Javie held a grudge because of Iverson's status as a hop-hop icon and off-court controversy, and uh, why would league lawyers and David Stern cite "liability concerns"? Mosmof (talk) 15:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Donaghy claims that Javie holds a grudge against A.I. because he thinks his influence is bad for the game. (Javie also has a major man-crush on Michael Jordan, which makes him and Dick Bavetta the ultimate company men.) What is A.I.'s influence to the game? Obviously hip hop unless he was talking about revolutionizing the assumption that short guards should be facilitators rather than scorers. It's beyond obvious what Donaghy meant. Besides, I read about the league lawyers putting a stop to the publication and threatened to sue. Donaghy already got paid. By the way, judging from the edit history, you seem to be gang patrolling the article to your liking and reverting every single edit from other users just because you don't like it.--NWA.Rep (talk) 11:34, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

First off, I ask that you assume good faith. I know both you and I are working to improve the article. Any change I make is to improve it, and any edit I revert is because it introduced an error or something that doesn't follow Wikipedia policies or guideline. I don't get any jollies from seeing my version up there. I know you're working in good faith and I hope you can return the courtesy.
Second, WP:V means you can't say anything is "beyond obvious". Wikipedia's job isn't to connect the dots for the readers - what you're doing, trying to figure out what Donaghy meant, no matter how correct, is WP:SYNTH, which goes against policy. If you can find something that explicitly says what you wrote, great, cite it. Otherwise, don't put it in.
Finally, you say "read about the league lawyers putting a stop to the publication and threatened to sue". Where did you read it? Are you sure it wasn't Donaghy's allegation that the league lawyers putting the screws on the publication? Again, if you can find a reliable source that says "David Stern sent his henchmen to stop the book's publication", great, cite it. As always, it doesn't matter whether something is "true" or "obvious", it has to be verifiable and cited. Mosmof (talk) 20:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Main Picture

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I'd like to change the main picture to Allen-Iverson.jpg. He's currently on the Sixers so I think his picture should reflect that, especially considering he is best known for being on the Sixers as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottsep (talk • contribs) 04:11, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

You can find recent copyright-free images of Iverson you can use at commons:Category:Allen Iverson. I think the current image works fine because it's a nice action shot that clearly shows his face, it was taken in the last couple of years and readers can easily tell that he's now a Sixer, but if you can take a better picture yourself, that would be fantastic. But keep in mind that any image you use in the article has to meet Wikipedia's image use policy, and there aren't many that do. --Mosmof (talk) 12:57, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

How could I edit this if it's protected though? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottsep (talk • contribs) 02:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

You'd have suggest an edit and an established editor can do it for you. But which picture do you suggest should go in the infobox? Like I said, I don't think any of the more recent pictures in Commons is as good as the current pic, but I'm open to discussion. Or do you have another copyright-free image in mind? --Mosmof (talk) 05:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking the one at this: link http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Allen-Iverson.jpg should be copyright-free, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.123.144.205 (talk) 23:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Former Teams

Philadelphia 76ers (1996–2006)(2009-Present) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Datroyster09 (talk • contribs) 09:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

That's correct. Somehow, someone can't comprehend that. I'm a Philadelphian; I was ecstatic to see Mr. Iverson back here. I wish he would return to the team. But whilst I'm wishing that he would return to the team in one hand, I could do something else in the other. Which would fill up first?Mk5384 (talk) 01:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Iverson is still taking up a roster spot. [2] The 76ers haven't actually waived him, or anything like that. Yes, it seems unlikely he'll play another game for them, but officially, he's still listed as part of the team. Zagalejo^^^ 01:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
According to Adrian Woj, "Philadelphia will pay Iverson the rest of his veteran’s minimum contract this season. For now, he has not been cut." [3] Zagalejo^^^ 01:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I have been, and always will continut to be, a productive and helpful editor. I am not about to engage in an edit war with anyone, as that helps no one. If you are going to continue to revert me, then so be it. I am not going to keep undoing it. But please consider this. Posting information that is incorrect and misleading is just plain wrong. He is no longer a Sixer. He has said it; the coach has said it; the GM has said it; the owner has said it, and virtually every source of media have confirmed it. It is just absurd to keep faulty information on this page because someone has an axe to grind.Mk5384 (talk) 23:17, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Your editing on this article seem to make you look unproductive and unhelpful. Several people have said this repeatedly, but I will say it again. Yes, he will not play for them anymore, that is confirmed. But as of now he is still on the roster [4]. So, unless the team formally waive him, he is still part of the team. Why can't you understand that?—Chris!c/t 23:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
To add to the above, yes, it's confirmed that Iverson won't play for the rest of '09-'10. But no one has said that he's off the team. Think of it this way - how is Iverson different from a guy who tears his ACL and is ruled out for the year? Or a player who brings firearm into the locker room and is told not to show up for the rest of the season? 01:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I have stated my case, and the information in the article is misleading, and incorrect. However, as I have said, I am not going to revert it any more, as I believe that edit warring would be even more harmful. I would just like to point out to the rest of you, that after I posted the comment where I said that I was not going to do any more reverts, Mosmof went on my talk page, and threatened to report me for 3 RR. Maybe he (or she) is going to tell my mommy as well. That's just extremely childish. ( Especially since I never even violated it in the first place.) Oh well.Mk5384 (talk) 01:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
How is it incorrect? He is a member of the 76ers currently on personal leave, and that's exactly what it says on this article. You have yet to present any WP:RS contradicting this fact. Please, if you can come up with a single WP:V that says Iverson is on the 76ers roster, then nobody would be undoing your edits.
Also, whatever your intent is, when you repeatedly revert other people's edit, even when you wait 24 hours to do it, it is edit warring and not constructive. I get that you mean well, but I didn't see your comment here and you seemed to be unaware that avoiding 3RR didn't free you to repeatedly revert other people's good faith edits. I wanted to make sure you were aware of policy. If you took that as a "threat", then you were mistaken. --Mosmof (talk) 04:19, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from VENØM, 6 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Allen Iverson is now a free agent in the NBA, need to remove team layout on article.

VENØM (talk) 02:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done SpigotMap 12:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Bobcats?

I was talking to a couple of my inside sources, and they all said Michael Jordan was having internal discussions about bringing in Allen Iverson, and the talks have skyrocketed as of late.

I see this as a good fit. If there's one thing we learned about Charlotte in their first playoffs, it's that they'll need to add more offensive playmakers and scorers if they're serious about winning a championship in the next few years.

Charlotte ranked dead last in team points per game in the playoffs, averaging a paltry 85.5 PPG in their four-game sweep at the hands of the Orlando Magic. Sure, Dwight Howard and the Magic defense had something to do with Charlotte's inability to score—after all, they did average nearly 10 PPG more in the regular season—but the Bobcats still ranked 28th in the league in points per game in the regular season.

In other words, Stephen Jackson and D.J. Augustin just aren't cutting it on their lonesome. Why not throw Iverson into that backcourt mix?

If you're the Bobcats, you've just seen your starting point guard, Raymond Felton, walk away in free agency this summer for absolutely nothing. You've seemingly got little to no faith in Augustin's ability to lead your team. Couldn't you do worse than a future Hall of Famer?

A starting backcourt of Iverson and Jackson would force defenses to play the Bobcats honestly, which should open up more opportunities for Gerald Wallace and Tyrus Thomas on the inside.

If there's one reason to fear adding Iverson to your team, beyond the potential off-court/chemistry issues he could bring, it's his defensive ability... or lack thereof.

Once upon a time, Iverson had some of the quickest hands and feet in the league, which he converted into a plethora of steals in his heyday. Now that he's 35 years old, the steals and his foot speed have gone down, and the number of times he's been burned by bench guards has gone way, way up.

If you're going to try and mask Iverson's defensive deficiencies, wouldn't you say that adding him to the team that allowed the fewest points per game this past season couldn't hurt? (That's the Bobcats, with only 93.8 PPG allowed, in case you were wondering.)

Iverson's days of averaging five or more rebounds per game are long gone. Gerald Wallace broke out last season and started averaging 10 rebounds per game. Again, see the fit here?

As long as Iverson's offensive contributions outweighed his defensive breakdowns, he'd be a valuable addition to the Bobcats. On a team that values defense as much as the Bobcats, the effects of Iverson's lapses on D would have a legitimate chance of being minimized.

Any other team in the NBA may be concerned about bringing Iverson on because of a potentially toxic relationship with his new coach (see: Pistons, Detroit, 2008). Needless to say, the Bobcats won't have that problem.

For all the coaches who've had to corral Iverson's combustible personality, Larry Brown was the most successful. Brown coached the Sixers from 1997-2003, leading Iverson to an MVP award and an appearance in the 2001 NBA Finals against the Kobe and Shaq Showtime Lakers.

Sure, Iverson and Brown's relationship had its ups-and-downs, but one look at Iverson's tenure with coaches since—he's had eight different coaches since Brown's 2003 departure from Philadelphia—says it all. Brown managed six years with Iverson; then Iverson manages to go through eight coaches in the next seven years.

Brown's name actually circulated in rumors about the Philadelphia job earlier this year, once the Sixers fired Eddie Jordan; however, the hiring of Doug Collins killed those rumors. But if there's anyone who can ease Iverson's transition from superstar to role player, it's the guy who coached him to become the best player in the league in 2001.

If his past is any indication, Iverson will need a coach's guidance as he enters the twilight of his career. There's no coach in the league better suited for that role than Brown.

A friend of mine brought this aspect up when I threw this Iverson-Bobcats idea by him: You know Michael Jordan will lace up his shoes one day in practice and take A.I. on, one-on-one.

Iverson, the No. 1 pick in 1996, entered the league towards the end of Jordan's dynasty. Before Jordan faded away, Iverson made sure to fake Jordan out on this legendary crossover to the left.

If Jordan's Hall of Fame speech last year is any indication, he's still fuming about that crossover nearly 15 years after the fact. And while he's attempting to maintain a serious image as the majority owner of the Bobcats, Mark Cuban provided the blueprint for eccentric ownership—what's preventing one of the best players of all time going up against his team once or twice a year?

How better to motivate Iverson than to have Jordan show him personally that age shouldn't stop the greatest players in the game from doing their thing on the court?

The pair of Coach Brown and Jordan, the owner, would provide Iverson with two guys in his front office for whom he's got nothing but respect. The structure the Bobcats could offer Iverson simply trumps any other team in the NBA. Last year, the Bobcats made the playoffs (as the East's No. 6 seed) for the first time in their young franchise history. Their successes translated into ticket sales—after renewing 71 percent of their season ticket holders and selling fewer than 400 new season tickets before the 2009-10 season, the Bobcats have seen 91 percent renew this summer, and they've sold nearly 1,600 new season tickets so far.

The Sixers front office can vouch: If there's one thing Iverson can provide without fail, it's a boost in ticket sales.

Iverson, like Tracy McGrady, will come as a low-risk, high-reward option for the Bobcats. The Cats won't expect 20 PPG out of Iverson if they sign him to a veteran's minimum contract, but they wouldn't complain if he scored those 20 points efficiently.

Furthermore, a starting backcourt of Iverson and Stephen Jackson could actually give Charlotte one of the more explosive, exciting backcourts in the league. And most importantly, that backcourt could be enough incentive to draw out fans to games.

More fans equals louder crowds; louder crowds equals more excitement; more excitement equals a larger home court advantage.

Considering an Iverson contract would cost all of $1 million, what do the Bobcats have to lose? Nothing at all, so since this is bound to happen maybe we should change his infobox to say he's part of the Bobcats, if this is 99% chance going to happen. 71.185.164.244 (talk) 17:18, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Let's just keep it the way it is for now. Triggafinga (talk) 17:24, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. You'd have to be a lot more certain than "99% chance". Even then, the proposed edit violates WP:CRYSTAL, WP:V and WP:OR. In a word, no. Mosmof (talk) 20:48, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 193.61.104.3, 27 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} currently playing for Beşiktaş Istanbul.

193.61.104.3 (talk) 06:40, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 12:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

"under dispute"

How can the section on the 2004 Olympics be under dispute? Every sentence is a fact, save the first, which calls the result a disappointment. If that's not obvious, then pull out the first sentence and get rid of the disputed tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.189.142.175 (talk) 05:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Ellohami91, 18 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}}

Hey, I just wanted to have an updates picture of Allen Iverson as his main picture on the page. Thats it. Thanks ! Ellohami91 (talk) 18:40, 18 January 2011 (UTC) Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. I think perhaps you're confused about how these requests work. The purpose is not just to take requests (that is, suggestions for improvement), but for you to provide everything needed to fix the problem you perceive. In this case, you would need to upload a new picture to Wikipedia. Since you don't have an account, the way to do that is described at Wikipedia:Files for upload. Note, though, that you will need to provide an image which meets our WP:Image policy--in this case, that means it's going to have to be a free image (i.e., one in the public domain or one that you yourself own and make available under a free license). You can't upload a picture from another website, or a picture from a magazine, or video screen capture. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

College section

Not sure why the page is locked, but can someone fix the last sentence of the college section? It is redundant and grammatically incorrect. The only information that could be taken from it is that he was at G'town for 2 years, and that can be included in the previous paragraph. Myavantssoslow (talk) 01:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

"Iverson was the first of just two basketball players, Victor Page being the other, to leave Georgetown early for the NBA.[12]" I don't know if this was true at the time Page was drafted, but it definitely isn't true now (Green, Monroe). Somebody ought to fix this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.244.68 (talk) 07:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Bellsprout723d 7/21/11

In the first paragraph shouldn't it say Turkish Basketball player instead of American since he now plays in Turkey? Bellsprout723d (talk) 06:18, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

No, because his nationality is American not Turkish.—Chris!c/t 18:57, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 69.115.133.42, 11 September 2011

Write about where allen iverson is now in the turkish league 69.115.133.42 (talk) 01:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Question: Exactly what should we write? P.S. I don't think he's in the Turkish league any more. --Mosmof (talk) 02:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. — Bility (talk) 19:50, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

completely unencyclopedic

In accordance to BLP standard, no one's encyclopedic biography should consist of instances of "urinating in a trash can". Moreover, there are absolutely no proof that Iverson drinks more than anyone else other than Stephen A. Smith's unfounded accusation. Jarrett Jack got arrested for DUI a few months ago. When did Iverson ever had a DUI? There is also no proof that Iverson is broke other than unfounded rumors and hearsay, which have no place in a legit encyclopedia. Take it to TMZ--NWA.Rep (talk) 02:16, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

You removed a bunch of items, not just the trash can, and some of which corroborate each other, on the drinking and the gambling issue. You might be able to get consensus for some of those to be removed, but after a discussion, and only after a discussion. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:40, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
According to BLP standard, one's encyclopedic biography should consist of instances of "urinating in a trash car", if it has been reported by a reputable source. We're not looking for "proof". We're looking for verifiability, and these incidents and claims are backed up by independent, third party sources that are subject to editorial oversight. Legitimate news organizations don't report hearsay - newspapers generally require independent verifications of claims and don't report claims made by single sources and unattributed rumors. Plus, "by all account but his" offers enough caveat that Iverson himself denies the claim that he's broke. --Mosmof (talk) 03:54, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Also, I'm puzzled by the edit summary, no proof that a.i. is broke other than malicious media reports to blackball him from the league. This is some serious accusation of libel and conspiracy, and I'm not sure why someone who's complaining about sourced content could make a unsubstantiated claim that's way more serious. --Mosmof (talk) 04:12, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure how much you follow the politics of the NBA but there is indeed a conspiracy theory that is gaining steam especially after the firing of well-connected Larry Brown, who publicly supported Allen Iverson throughout this ordeal (he wanted to bring him to Charlotte but was vetoed by Jordan who instead chose to trade for Stephen Jackson's bloated contract) yet is now begging for an assistant or college job to no avail and the fact that Michael Curry was rewarded with an assistant head coach job under Doug Collins after successfully sabotage Iverson's career in his contract year in 2008-2009 season. Obviously, the conspiracy (NBA insiders David Stern, Steve Javie, Stephen A. Smith, Adrian Wojnarowski, Joe Dumars, Michael Curry, Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller, among other insiders) is not encyclopedic and should not be included but the curious timing of insiders (Stern's cronies) Stephen A. Smith article and other media assault on Iverson make the inclusion questionable. No one goes from setting career high in shooting percentages, assist to turnover ratio while leading his team to franchise record in wins in 2008 (27 points 7 assists) to a bench player in less than 6 months. Please read [5] (this article was written in January 2008 before this whole thing went down. It eerily foreshadowed future events) and [6] if you are interested.--NWA.Rep (talk) 04:19, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Minor Edit

"the Sixers would continue to improve under Iverson's guidance" A coach provides 'guidance'; A star player provides 'leadership'. I'll wait a few days for comments before making any change. Seki1949 (talk) 21:04, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


The article needs an entire section about that practice rant.

"WE'RE TALKING ABOU PRACTICE." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.114.90 (talk) 02:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request Seki1949 (talk) 21:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC) 02/20/2012

Please change "That year, the Sixers would continue to improve under Iverson's guidance" to "That year, the Sixers would continue to improve under Iverson's leadership" A coach provides 'guidance'; A star player provides 'leadership'.

Done Thanks, Celestra (talk) 22:56, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Reebok Lifetime Contract

Iverson and Reebok Allen Iverson signed a life-time contract with Reebok in 2001. This deal has led to the second longest signature shoe production of all NBA players only behind Michael Jordan. Iverson has had 14 signature shoes which include the Question all the way to the Answer XIV. Iverson's most widely sold shoe is his Reebok Question which was his shoe he wore his rookie year in which he won Rookie of the Year. It has been re-released for its tenth anniversary and was sold out immediately. [http:www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/61255] [7] Allen3134 (talk) 22:37, 28 March 2012 (UTC)Allen3134

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I spot checked 'Answer XIV' and 'second' in the sources. Answer did not show up and second longest only showed up in a reply. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 04:17, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request

In the column on the top right of the wiki page where a picture of Allen Iverson as a Denver Nugget is shown, the page displays that Iverson's high school attended was Bethel. However, it should be noted that Iverson only attended Bethel for three years in which he was a part of Bethel's two state championships in basketball and football. He wasn't allowed to attend his senior year due to the 1993 bowling alley incident which charged Allen with maiming by mob and was a 15 year sentence. He received a GED in high school with the help of a tutor. [8] [9] [10] Allen3134 (talk) 23:19, 28 March 2012 (UTC)Allen3134

Already done The incident itself is covered in the prose, not in the infobox. If you have a specific change to make to the way the incident is handled, please open another request detailing that change. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 04:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Infobox image

In light of this change, it might be good to have a discussion about the infobox image. I've objected to the current image myself. It's off-center and has a low resolution. Zagalejo^^^ 01:50, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Crossover on Jordan

Do you guys seriously think that this should not be added to this article??? Although it's been talked about so much, it's still very monumental and historical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianmykel (talk • contribs) 19:37, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Two points is two points. It's not like he was the only person to ever score on Jordan. If it was a game-winning play in a playoff game, it would be more significant, but the Sixers didn't even make the playoffs that year. Zagalejo^^^ 01:29, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Report page vandalism

There is a line in the "Legal and Financial troubles" section that wrongly says he was seen begging for change and it sources a parody news site. This line also uses the ":)" characters to denote a laugh Giff2005 (talk) 23:18, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Done — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 05:16, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2014

Currently, Iverson is broke, as he was seen begging for change outside of a mall in Atlanta.[1] Yen223 (talk) 14:20, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

The whole line should be removed. Its sole citation is a satirical news site, according to the site's own footer ("The stories posted on TheNewsNerd are for entertainment purposes only. The stories may mimic articles found in the headlines, but rest assured they are purely satirical.").

Another cite that the line is a hoax/satire : https://uk.news.yahoo.com/allen-iverson-ex-nba-star-seen-begging-change-130402136.html#FoGmlwI — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barath s (talk • contribs) 14:51, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Undone: This request (or the completed portion of it) has been undone. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 16:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Technical 13, AFAIk, washington post has not cited Allen Iverson begging. Not sure why the hoax deletion was reverted, leaving the hoax on the page.

  • Barath s, there is no hoax on the page. What is there, is indeed citable by the Washington Post. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 16:28, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

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  1. ^ http://www.thenewsnerd.com/sports/allen-iverson-begging-for-change-in-atlanta/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

huh?

"Recently, Iverson was broke as indicated when he pulled the pockets out his pants at a divorce proceeding in Atlanta in 2012 and shouted to his estranged wife, Tawanna, "I don’t even have money for a cheeseburger," who then handed him $61."

Was it the cheeseburger who handed Iverson the money? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.187.254 (talk) 06:15, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Practice

First of all, this article has both semi-protection and pending changes; please remove the semi-protection. Secondly, in the Wikipedia article it says

[...] and went on a rant that included the word "practice" over twenty times.

This is not true. Check the source used there, it says

[...], a word he disdainfully spit out 14 times during one news conference stream of consciousness.

(emphasis mine) --82.136.210.153 (talk) 16:52, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Also, in my opinion the word "rant" is not objective/neutral enough. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 16:55, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Partly done: I've changed the number to fourteen per the cited article. Please feel free to suggest a specific change to replace the word "rant" if you feel it's necessary. As to the protection level, you would need to make that request directly to the protecting admin (Bagumba, in this case). I wouldn't expect any change, though - it's not uncommon to see pages with both pending changes and semi-protection where there has been persistent vandalism by both unregistered and unconfirmed users, as there has been on this page for many years. --ElHef (Meep?) 18:42, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Indefinite pending changes was in place before I added semi-protection for persistent vandalism, which expires in May. At that time, pending changes will continue. There is no conflict with having both of them enable currently. Semi takes precedence now, and PC will continue seamless come May. Is there any other viable reason to discontinue the semi-protection any earlier?—Bagumba (talk) 21:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
In the weeks before you added semi-protection there were less than a handful of edits per day. While most of those had to be reverted, this is no reason to add semi-protection. As WP:PC says: "Administrators may apply pending changes protection to pages that are subject to heavy and persistent vandalism, [...]" (emphasis mine) In my opinion, the question should not be 'why discontinue semi-protection' but 'why use semi-protection when pending changes functioned as intended'. Per WP:PP, Wikipedia aims to have as many of its pages as possible open for public editing so that anyone can add material and correct errors. As a longtime IP editor, I can assure you that the semi-protection process is a bigger obstacle than pending changes. Semi-protection is more suitable for articles that get dozens of (vandalistic) edits per day. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 21:52, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I think we can agree that unproductive editors are a burden on the majority of us, registered or not, that are here to improve Wikipedia. As far as PC, I usually apply it to an article with a handful of unproductive edits a month, not a day. Sure PC controls visibility to non-registered users, but registered users see the material, and reviewers are tasked with approving the edits. In Iverson's case, a majority of the edits are non-constructive, making even PC a burden given the frequency it is edited. Sorry for the inconvenience to you in fixing the "practice" inaccuracy. However, I still believe it is a necessary compromise in this case. Feel free to post at WP:RPP if you require a second opinion. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 22:50, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2015

Scjc1223 (talk) 00:03, 30 September 2015 (UTC) show the words to the 40 bars song

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Stickee (talk) 00:41, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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"The Answer"

Why isn't Allen Iverson's nickname "The Answer" mentioned in his article? His first tattoo too? Please see here: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/12/sports/la-sp-sn-allen-iverson-the-answer-20120912 Joel S Bateman (talk) 23:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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Please Modify to Personal Life Section

The way a personal life section should start is where was he born, what year, was he married, does he have kids, has he had other jobs besides basketball, did he go to college, where? Why is the 'personal' life section reduced to a list of a few minor offenses that he has committed over a long life? You could just as easily make such a list about me. It would completely miss the point in my view. Isn't there anything good or even neutral to say about him? I'd rather know what his interests are outside basketball, whether he has siblings, his wife's name, his kids names, something... there must be something more interesting than whether he was caught many years ago with some weed in his pocket? Here's a man who clearly is exceptional. I came to Wikipedia trying to gain insight into what makes him tick. I'm inclined to say that the article is racist in view of its omissions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:8200:AC10:21E2:B1E1:ABCC:3DAC (talk) 04:05, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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New changes

Hello, I am going to add a couple of things I believe will helps this article become a more well-rounded description of Iverson's life.

-I will be adding more to Iverson's early life section about his years between birth and his high school days. -Discuss the racial prejudice many thought was prevalent in the bowling alley incident. -Add a new section about Iverson's influence and the hip-hop culture of the NBA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newlankh (talk • contribs) 15:00, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Greetings, Newlankh. You added a rather large amount of text that is unsupported by third-party, independent, acceptable sources and reads like a personal essay. (See message immediately below.) This, as you should know, is not acceptable practice in Wikipedia since Wikipedia is not a scientific journal or a forum for essays and social commentary. Could you please try to improve that section under the related WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:5P1, if it's meant to stay up? Thanks. -The Gnome (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

OR/non-NPOV section

That whole section titled "Role in cultural change of NBA" is a piece of badly written and unsourced original work. Should it stay up and diminish the worth of an otherwise fine article? -The Gnome (talk) 17:11, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

It seems to have been added here by Newlankh, as they also discussed above at #New changes. I think it would be good to have something on Iverson's cultural impact, but the current content there probably has WP:NPOV issues in addition to WP:OR concerns. I have no problem if it is deleted for now.—Bagumba (talk) 18:21, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
I agree. 2604:2000:E010:1100:F40C:4974:5CCE:2D29 (talk) 20:50, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I've deleted the section given the months of inactivity and it being entirely without citations. It could be a worthwhile topic, if done properly.—Bagumba (talk) 00:53, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2022

2601:46:201:7990:8D3D:7DF1:5F78:B6C (talk) 21:24, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Allen Iverson played 23 post season games in 2001, not 22.

 Not done for now: It's unclear where in the article this claim is made. Could you point it out more specifically? You would also need to present a reliable source to verify this change. Presuming such a source isn't already there, that is. Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 22:12, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

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