Talk:Anarcha-feminism

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Broken Link[edit]

The link to RAG website is broken - there is a temporary blogspot in operation ragdublin.blogspot.com but wikipedia won't let me put it in - cos it's a blogspot? 83.70.54.90 (talk) 18:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Criticisms of Criticisms[edit]

Two problems with the Criticisms section:

  1. The section has only criticism of the name - anarcha- vs. anarcho- feminism, and lacks any other criticism of substance. In doing so, it suggests that other criticisms do not exist. I'm sure there are some.
  2. The discussion of naming should probably be in some kind of sub-section; otherwise its own importance is elevated inappropriately.

Now, if only I had some ideas about the standing criticsms on the topic, I could actually be useful!

JBazuzi 05:37, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

JBazuzi, your 100% correct. The current criticism section is probably original research. It should be remoed and replaced with a reliably sourced criticism of anarcha-feminism/anarcho-feminism--Cailil 18:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I removed the entire section as per WP:OR. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 01:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I think that rather than just removing what I had added [not as a valid edit but as information to be used by someone who knows how to do it properly in Wikipedia] you might have taken on board the valid point that not only should the title anarcha-feminism be anarcho-feminism, but that the word anarcha is a proper name, Anarcha, a black slave woman who was operated on 30 times without anaesthetic. I also gave two sources for this, which if you bother to check them out back this up. Clearly none of you have heard of Anarcha, illustration that America has successfully whitewashed her out of history, and still Sims is lauded as the founder of modern gynaecology, with nothing of his concentration camp methods mentioned. Has anyone bothered to ind out is self-named anarcha-feminists call themselves thus for Anarcha, or out of ignorance of her? Yet again, Wikipedia seems to shut out those outsiders who would like to contribute, and deletes everything they add without a stated reason. Bit fascistic don't you think? Much like Sims and his experiments were fascistic. This isn't OR, it is widely known information that many would like buried; you too?

Contemporary Anarcha-feminists[edit]

We need some prominent anarcha-feminists listed in the article, preferable with links to their Wikipedia articles. PhilLiberty 04:22, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. McElroy is not the only one, of course. I also did a minor rewrite of the material PhilLiberty inserted about McElroy and individual feminism. See Talk:Feminism for further explanation, but basically to my knowledge McElroy is the foremost proponent of "i-feminism", and so I contextualized the material that way, and also reworded a somewhat awkwardly phrased (and slightly misleading) reference to differences in Europe & US. --lquilter 14:16, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


Individualist anarchist feminism[edit]

The last two sentences of the intro paragraph don't belong in the intro, in my opinion. It should go later in the article, perhaps as its own section. --Billyjoekini 21:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Done. --lquilter 23:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Sketchy sentence[edit]

Early feminist Mary Wollstonecraft held proto-anarchist views[citation needed], and William Godwin, her husband, is often considered an important precursor to anarchist feminism[citation needed]. -

  • I have removed this sentence for the time being. I am not convinced that reliable sources could be found to support it, particularly in the case of Wollstonecraft. I have read a fair bit on MW (see bibliographies on Mary Wollstonecraft and the pages on her works) and none of these sources makes a point of emphasizing her proto-anarchism. Godwin is often considered a proto-anarchist, if not an anarchist, but rarely have I seen him classified as a feminist (see caption on Fanny Imlay). I think the more precise formulation might be that others took Godwin's works to their logical extreme while he did not. However, I do not have any sources on this - I am only speculating because these statements are so at odds with what I have read. Historians of feminism and anarchism might read the past differently than the literary critics and biographers I have read so far. Until we have some solid evidence for these claims, I feel it is best to remove them. Awadewit | talk 14:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Certainly the "Mary Wollstonecraft held proto-anarchist views" is a new to me. I've not come across anything saying that before either--Cailil talk 14:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Social anarchism[edit]

Is Anarcha-feminism considered to be a form of social anarchism?--Fang 23 (talk) 15:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I've never come across a reference that says so, and I would be wary about including it as it is a form of anarchism primarily characterised by feminism, rather than the manner of social co-operation that characterises anarcho-syndicalism, collectivist anarchism and anarcho-communism. Incidently, would you be interested in summarizing Anarcha-feminism for the Anarchist schools of thought article, similar to what you did for National-Anarchism? Regards, Skomorokh incite 15:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes I think I will summarize Anarcha-feminism in Anarchist schools of thought article (maybe tomorrow or another day or today im not sure exactly when).--Fang 23 (talk) 16:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Much appreciated, thanks. Skomorokh incite 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Done![1]--Fang 23 (talk) 04:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Illiteracy[edit]

Y'all do know that the "o" in "anarcho" when it's linked with another word, such as in "anarcho-capitalism" is actually a genderless CONNECTING VOWEL, not a suffix indicative of gramatical gender such as "os" in say... "anarchikos" in Greek? Right? And they say women have better linguistic skills... Let me just throw here "anarcho-feminia" or "anarcho-feminy" wich might just have done the trick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omulurimaru (talkcontribs) 19:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

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"Anarcha"[edit]

Could we get a possible etymology for the term 'Anarcha-feminism'? I notice that the first published usage of the term 'feminist anarchist' was in 1970, yet there is no clear origin for the 'anarcha' prefix, which I think is important since English doesn't inflect for gender in nouns, i.e, 'anarcho-feminism' isn't like Spanish where the -o is indicative of masculine gender.

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Italians[edit]

I barely know enough about this to ask the question: should there be some mention of Italian and/or Italian-American anarcha-feminists? E.g. Maria Roda, Ernestina Cravello, Ersilia Cavedagni and others with connections to Paterson, NJ. --MopTop (talk) 15:22, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

"Female anarchist migrants such as Ninfa Baronio and Maria Roda were few in number but immensely important."[1]

"This article explores this world of diasporic anarchist feminism from the vantage point of Paterson, New Jersey and New York City. This history, but also the broader history of Italian women’s political activism in the United States, has long eluded scholars."[2]

Because Paterson was a center of the international anarchist movement....there is more archival material pertaining to these activists. But women's groups developed throughout the New York metropolitan area, involving immigrants from all over Italy."[3]

"From the 1880s through the 1940s tens of thousands of anarchists were active in the United States, the overwhelming majority of them first- and second-generation immigrants."[4]

  1. ^ Zimmer, Kenyon (2015). Immigrants against the State: Yiddish and Italian Anarchism in America. University of Illinois Press. p. 66. ISBN 9780252097430. 
  2. ^ Guglielmo, Jennifer (2010). "Transnational Feminism's Radical Past: Lessons from Italian Immigrant Women Anarchists in Industrializing America" (PDF). Journal of Women's History. 22 (1): 10–33. 
  3. ^ Guglielmo, Jennifer (2010). "Anarchist Feminists and the Radical Subculture". Living the Revolution: Italian Women's Resistance and Radicalism in New York City, 1880-1945. University of North Carolina Press. ISBN 9780807898222. 
  4. ^ Zimmer, Kenyon (2010). "'The Whole World is Our Country': Immigration and Anarchism in the United States, 1885-1940" (PDF). University of Pittsburgh. Retrieved December 30, 2017.  (Doctoral dissertation)

Okay, I'm going to be bold and add a short section about this. I'm sure it's flawed, but it's better than nothing. --MopTop (talk) 22:21, 2 January 2018 (UTC)