Talk:Attica (village), New York

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This is just part of the Village of Attica which is on the northern border of Wyoming County, New York. Most of the village is in that county, but the village is also in Genesee County, New York. Whoever originally organized the subunits of New York did not realize that Attica is one of the villages in New York that spans county borders. There was too much reliance on CSD information, which appears to be organized on a county level. A CSD is a temporary artifice to define a census tract, but the Village of Attica existed long before the census, and presumably will continue to do so. The two articles relating to one village should be merged, but can this be done without destroying the census data?

I believe that the article at Attica, Genesee County, New York represents all of census data for the village of Attica and was merely poorly named in a somewhat misguided attempt at disambiguation. I don't see how CSD played a role in this (perhaps you meant CDP, but even then there is no CDP defined for this place). However, the actual census data is confusing. The SF 4 Summary file says there was total population of 2,639. But the SF 1 Summary file says there was 2,597. I don't know where that discrepency comes from--there does not appear to be any sort of separate summary files for the village of Attica based on county. I think this can safely be merged with the Attica, Genesee County, New York article. older≠wiser 23:07, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

Most of the village is in Wyoming County. It could be that the population counts refer to the population in each part of the village, even though villages are supposed to be enumerated as a unit. This whole census business has blurred the localities in the state. Stepp-Wulf 05:28, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC).

It could be that the population counts refer to the population in each part of the village, I don't think this is the case--both SF 1 and SF 4 files describe the entire village and not only a portion. As the majority of the village is in Wyoming County, it is highly unlikely that 2,597 out of 2,639 people live in the Genesee County portion. I don't have a good handle on the differences, but SF 1 appears to be the most reliable; SF 4 appears to be based on some sort of sampling, which the description says may introduce errors for small geographical areas. I am 99% certain that Attica, Genesee County, New York contains the census data for the entire village and was simply poorly named as a result of trying to disambiguate from the town of Attica.
The question now is which of these articles should be merged into which. That is, should we copy and paste the census data from Attica, Genesee County, New York into Attica (village), New York or vice versa? I think that ultimately we want to have the article at Attica (village), New York. There have been few substative edits other than categorization and rambot updates made to Attica, Genesee County, New York, so I think that is probably a better candidate for merging into the other.
BTW, I think that Attica, Wyoming County, New York should be moved to Attica (town), New York for consistency with other town/village pairs and to avoid confusion, since the village is mostly in Wyoming county. After looking at things more closely, I think these articles may have been created pretty early on in Ram-Man's city project since it appears that he created them manually. At some point he began using Rambot to create the articles, so perhaps that might help to explain the irregularities here. older≠wiser 18:30, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

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