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Large or small?[edit]

Is Aylesford a large or a small village? with 5000 inhabitants (10,000 in the parish) I consider it to be large (small would be 500 or less, in UK terms), but another editor considers it to be a small, and we are continuously changing that one word in the introduction. Any other editors' comments would be appreciated. regards Lynbarn (talk) 14:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

OMG, have you ever even been to Aylesford? There's only like 50 houses and 7 shops. I wouldn't call that large. --82.34.173.149 (talk) 15:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, if there are 5,000 people and 50 houses, that's 100 to a house. Not very likely. This is large for a village in UK terms. Peteinterpol (talk) 22:59, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Aylesford "village" (the little historic bit) is indeed small. Possibly more than 50 houses but probably less than seven shops. However the large housing estate south of the river is also Aylesford and that is not so small. danno_uk 20:21, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

The view?[edit]

I gave the title image to this article "Aylesford Bridge at low tide". Another editor insists that the caption should read "The view", as it is a famous view and known as such around the world. I have pointed out some of the standards required by Wikipedia, but the caption is regularly changed back to "The view", which I feel is innapropriate to wikipedia, where 99.9% of the visitors will habve no knowledge of the village, let alone this image. Perhaps other editors could offer some opinion on this matter? Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 14:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Third opinion[edit]

Lynbarn and 82.34.173.149 have been discussing the above issues on their talk pages, but a third opinion has been sought which may help to resolve both issues for the betterment of Wikipedia. Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 15:01, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I'm new to Wikipedia, so I don't know that much about it. I live in Aylesford and I'm afraid I must agree with 82.34.173.149. Aylesford only consists of 50-60 houses and seven shops(including pubs) in the main street. I also understand that the scene is called 'The View' and you can find out more about it at the village Post Office.

--Flowersmadgirl11 (talk) 15:26, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for that! I must agree. There are 50-60 houses and Lynbarn says there are over 5000 residents of Aylesford. There is definately not more than 10 people in a house! Aylesford is a small village.

--82.34.173.149 (talk) 15:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

"The village" comprises more than just the main street, and according to the 2001 national census (and as quoted later in the article), there were then 4,548 people living in Aylesford Ward. That is a statistic that can be verified from several sources, including the parish council offices. Regards Lynbarn (talk) 16:20, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but you're wrong. Just stop being so contrary. Admit you can't always be right. Aylesford contains about 5-6 streets and is only a small group of houses! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.173.149 (talk) 16:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

--82.34.173.149 (talk) 16:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Fourth opinion[edit]

  1. It seems that "village" is defined by (a) having a church and (b) land area.[1]. Descriptions such as "large" and "small", especially in relation to the possible irrelevant issue of population, would seem to be thus inherently subjective, as the above discussions suggest, and therefore applying either term is not neutral, and I suggest it should be left as just "village", and let the reader decide whether they consider it large or small.
  2. If this view of the village is widely known as "The View", it would seem possible to find a source for it; that does not necessarily mean a web-based source, but a local newspaper would seem to qualify. Applying this description without a source is a much original research as if I said "there is a green car parked outside my house", because that fails verification, which is required for all matters in dispute.
Hope that helps. Rodhullandemu 15:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree and have removed 'small/large' from the article. My source that the scene is called 'The View' is in the window of the local village Post Office. For more help, ask people at the counter.

--82.34.173.149 (talk) 15:38, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps we should wait to see if other users concur with my opinion- which is based in policy. Perhaps, however, we are halfway there. As for "asking at the post office", please see WP:BURDEN:

The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation.

Rodhullandemu 16:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Completely Rewritten First Paragraph[edit]

I have completely rewritten the first paragraph with correct and relevant information.

--82.34.173.149 (talk) 15:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - that helps, although as an introduction, it is a bit short for an article of this size. I'm not sure why you removed the cited reference I'd added regarding the parish. that should be retained, I think, as it helps with the wider picture. Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 20:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Better Quality Picture[edit]

The current picture featured on this article is a bit burned out and unclear. I have found a better picture on Google Images. See http://www.aylesford-church.org.uk/profile2007/St%20Peter%20St%20Pauls%20Aylesford%20Parish%20Profile%20rev4-final_files/image005.jpg.

--82.34.173.149 (talk) 18:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

That link gives no indication of the copyright status of the photo (likely to be in copyright). Geograph has plenty of useable images for TQ7258, TQ7358, TQ7359 etc. Mjroots (talk) 18:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Could you repeat that in English, please?

--82.34.173.149 (talk) 16:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I didn't have a problem understanding it. Put shortly, most images used here are required to be free of copyright to avoid legal problems and that image did not appear to qualify. Why not follow the links and make a serious proposal? Rodhullandemu 16:28, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
"The View"

Still no reliable source for this; Google isn't necessarily an indicator of notability, and this would need sourcing or removing. I can see this discussion heading for WP:LAME. Rodhullandemu 16:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Using this Google search (as provided by 82.34.173.149) I was unable to find one image of "The View" within the first 20 hits. Obviously, "The View" is nowhere near as famous as 82.34 insists. I think my compromise of Aylesford Bridge at low tide known locally as "The View" is an ideal solution to this silly disagreement. Astronaut (talk) 16:42, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

River Medway image[edit]

The picture titled "Barges moored on the River Medway at Aylesford" needs to be removed. The reason being that the picture is of the river at Allington, Maidstone; in fact Allington Lock can be seen in the background 86.142.166.146 (talk) 02:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

You're right, that is definitely Allington Lock, so I have removed the image - have to see if there is one more appropruiate to that section of the article. Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 17:04, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Fact check[edit]

"and, by 1925, was known as Royal British Legion Village". Can't be right. The Legion only gained the 'Royal' in 1971. So what was it known as before then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.42.186 (talk) 08:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)