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Dominic Cummings[edit]

I've added some edits regarding the Chief Adviser to Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Dominic Cummings visiting the town in May 2020 during the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Devokewater (talk) 18:32, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Reliably sourced" as it might be, it's absolute piffle and doesn't belong on this article. Most of the media focus seems to come from their misunderstanding that's it's an actual castle, so "reliably sourced" doesn't carry much weight, I'm afraid. --Inops (talk) 18:59, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree with you Inops, this event is part of the town's history. Can we take this to the next level, being the administrators. Regards Devokewater (talk) 19:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
An extremely fleeting, tenuous part, if it is. If he lived in Durham and drove down to London, and did an excursion to Hyde Park, would our Hyde Park article warrant an inclusion of that journey? Wait a few days and this will be forgotten. --Inops (talk) 19:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Inops whilst I respect your opinion, I still think it’s necessary to take this to Wikipedia arbitration, thus letting the administrators decide. Quite a few editors have posted on this subject and no doubt more will. Regards Devokewater (talk) 19:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored mention of this: it's the most publicity Barnard Castle has received in decades, and at least as notable as (for example) Bill Bryson's or J. M. W. Turner's visits there. It would be useful to have cites to clear up the town/castle confusion regarding his visit: does anyone have an appropriate cite for this? -- The Anome (talk) 09:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm removing per WP:RECENT and WP:PROPORTION. The place is a thousand years old, the refs about this from this week. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's a mention-in-passing that is abundantly justified by the extensive media coverage this has received. If international media coverage (see, for example, this) is not enough to establish notability, what is? -- The Anome (talk) 10:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say some decent coverage over time, but that's me. The 3 current sources in the article are good, but apart from the WP:RECENT and WP:PROPORTION issue, 2 only the mention the place in passing, and the "Pass notes - A quick chat designed to tell you everything you need to know about a story you don't need to know about" doesn't seem very serious, making the paragraph meh. IMO, clearly out of WP:PROPORTION, at leat this week. Reminds me of Mandalorian: Punching Baby Yoda Added To Jason Sudeikis' Wikipedia Page Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That is exactly why the mention here is solely a mention-in-passing. Let me lay out the reasoning: Cummings visited Barnard Castle, his visit there is famous, he's famous in his own right as well, therefore he's a famous visitor to Barnard Castle (in two ways at once), so we mention it here. This is a compromise between not mentioning it at all, and editors spamming the full details of L'affaire Cummings into this article ad nauseam. -- The Anome (talk) 11:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And as I see it, this story belongs at Dominic Cummings, not here. WP will survive either outcome. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think we are in agreement on the last two points. As I said to another editor who was intent on putting the entire story here, this is only worth a mention is passing here, and the full story belongs on the Cummings and COVID-19 in the UK articles. -- The Anome (talk) 12:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For those of you in this discussion, you may be interested in the discussion(s) going on at Draft talk:Dominic Cummings scandal. Seagull123 Φ 22:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2020[edit]

In the Dominic Cummings section "PM" should be changed to "British Prime Minister" for clarity. 2.31.130.75 (talk) 10:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Updated Devokewater (talk) 10:36, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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