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Azerbaijani?

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Considering I see zero third-party sources(ie. neutral) stating the ethnicity of this particular poet.

  • "In Ottoman lands, Persian émigrés seeking refuge were welcome additions to elite gatherings. Müʾeyyedzade's house in Istanbul was a special hub for the Persian literati. It was one of the first stops of the refugee poet Basiri .." --Empire of Salons: Conquest and Community in Early Modern Ottoman Lands, Helen Pfeifer, Princeton University Press.
  • "Consider, for example, the Persian émigré and poet Basiri. Unlike many others, his life and accomplishments feature in a number of these sixteenth-century Ottoman dictionaries."--The Crisis of Kingship in Late Medieval Islam, Page 235, Christopher Markiewicz, Cambridge University Press.
  • "Basiri, a Persian émigré active at the Ottoman court in the first three decades of the sixteenth century, initially arrived.." --Diplomatic Cultures at the Ottoman Court, c.1500–1630, Tracey A. Sowerby, ‎Christopher Markiewicz, Routledge.
  • "Sehi contents himself with the observation he[Basiri] was Persian." --Jāmī in Regional Contexts: The Reception of ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Jāmī’s Works in the Islamicate World, ed.Thibaut d'Hubert, Alexandre Papas.

Basiri was not born in Aq Qoyunlu, since he was called Basiri of Khurasan.[1] --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


References

  1. ^ Asian and African Studies. Vol. 1–3. 1992. p. 69.

If you do not find the article correct, you can change it. There is not a single poet named Basiri. I know that there is another person named Basiri, who is a Persian poet. However, the poet here is a different man than the others. Aydın memmedov2000 (talk) 20:32, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pasha Karimov, Deputy Director for Scientific Affairs of the Institute of Manuscripts named after Mohammad Fuzuli of ANAS, Doctor of Philology, received autograph copies of the collection of lyrical poems of the Azerbaijani poet Mohammad Basiri, who lived in the XV-XVI centuries, from the Suleymaniye Library of Istanbul and the National Library of Tehran. Basiri, who died in 1534, is believed to have been born in 1466. The poet lived in the palace of Aghgoyunlu rulers in his youth and in 1487 traveled to Herat, the capital of Khorasan. Having won the sympathy of Hussein Baygara, Alisher Navai and Abdulrahman Jami, Basiri moved to Turkey after returning to his homeland and died there. Comments from Turkish authors suggest that his work influenced the local literary environment. Until now, only a few poems of the poet were known in Azerbaijan. At the beginning of the Istanbul version of Basiri's divan, his Persian poems were copied, and then 1 verse and 46 ghazals were copied. The Tehran version of the poet's divan also begins with Persian poems. There are 4 poems and 74 ghazals in Azerbaijani Turkish. The poet's poems dedicated to the Aghgoyunlu and Ottoman rulers and high-ranking officials help to learn more about his life. It is planned to publish Basiri's collection of poems based on these new poems. Aydın memmedov2000 (talk) 20:34, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Odd how western academics make no mention of this other Basiri.
  • "Azerbaijani poet Mohammad Basiri, who lived in the XV-XVI centuries, from the Suleymaniye Library of Istanbul and the National Library of Tehran. Basiri, who died in 1534, is believed to have been born in 1466. The poet lived in the palace of Aghgoyunlu rulers in his youth and in 1487 traveled to Herat, the capital of Khorasan."
According to who? Azerbaijani websites? When information can not be confirmed by third party sources, just exactly what do you think is actually going on? Some grand conspiracy to suppress poetry? --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:54, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like Aydin attempted to the same here by using the same kind of fairy tale sites [1] --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:44, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]