Talk:Better Off Ted

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Cryogenics/Cryonics

You don't cryogenically freeze someone, you cryonically freeze them. Cryogenics is a measure of extremely low temperatures; cryonics is the use of these temperatures to freeze an entire living being. I'm changing it. Sailorknightwing (talk) 17:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

how about this? you can let it say what they called it in the show and then put up a disclaimer or something. I've seen wikifights over stuff like this so just mediating and nipping it in the bud.96.25.80.203 (talk) 07:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about? In the show, they also use the correct version, eg. In the Pilot(around the 7:30 mark), when Veronica is first telling Ted that the company wants to freeze Phil, she says, "..Phil, the company cryonically wants to freeze him". You can distinctively hear her say cryonically which is the correct word so yeah, there shouldn't be any argument about this. The correct word and what the characters in the show use in the show is cryonically and thahs what is used in the article. Killeroid (talk) 08:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio

The plot was apparently a copyvio from a boilerplate that has been going around. See http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=940502 among other places. Superm401 - Talk 09:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You should mention the other places, since I can't find any and this link certainly doesn't point to any....Sheriffjt (talk) 08:38, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gay/Lesbian characters

Only one of the cast members is gay. I dont know where the rumor started about the all most of the cast members being gay/lesbian because ABC wanted to capitalize of will and grace but its false since only one cast member is gay. Also in the show, none of the characters is gay or lesbian.Killeroid (talk) 03:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It says two. :/ OrangeAipom (talk) 02:11, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Portia de Rossi (Veronica) is gay, don't know bout the rest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.91.125.218 (talk) 09:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The guy who plays Phil is also gay, (No, I'm serious. The actor is a self confessed gay) - 15.195.201.87 (talk) 23:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"self-confessed?" like it's a crime or a shame? Why not just use the phrase "openly gay?" Bustter (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Season Finale

Hoping I'm wrong but I heard from a website that the season finale is on April 29? any truth to that? we should put it in if it is but my computers too slow to run the graphics on the schedule site. thanks96.25.80.203 (talk) 07:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's the season finale :( but it's episode 6 adn there's been 13 episodes made. They'll probably be straight to DVD or will (hopefully) be shown with season 2. -- ^[User]Jamie JCA_[Talk] 23:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Portia De Rossi is the partner of television host Ellen DeGeneres. She was born in Horsham, Victoria, Australia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.254.137 (talk) 14:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Veridian Dynamics

since VD and its commercials are quite important for the show, maybe someone wants to extend the article in the future respectively. abc has setup a small advertisment page available at http://veridiandynamics.com/, but there is not a lot of content, just a few funny videos. the reason why i started this section is this: today i traced the VD logo from the first advertisment shown in the pilot and created a svg. it was quite some work, because of the different fonts used. since the wp policies are pretty strict and im new, i dont want to upload it yet. as far as i can tell from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Logos it would be perfectly ok to upload it, if it is significant for the article. if someone expands the article and wants to use the logo, just mail me. a preview can be seen here: http://img228.imageshack.us/i/veridiandynamicsyay.png/ AmenophisIII (talk) 14:39, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Links to individual episode pages broken

FYI: Within the (admittedly cool-looking) tables, the links to individual episodes are broken. 69.137.58.115 (talk) 03:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FixedTheo10011 (talk) 17:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

single-camera?

This is relevant how?

CapnZapp (talk) 21:34, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because not many sitcoms use single-camera setups these days. single camera implies lower budget or a specific filming style by the producers - 15.195.201.88 (talk) 01:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, according to the page on single camera shooting, a whole bunch of popular TV shows use single-camera setup, including 30 Rock, the Office, and Cougar Town —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.71.44.99 (talk) 05:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How is it single camera?? The scenes are clearly shot from a number of different angles!?76.65.21.90 (talk) 05:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This topic was started by a snippy know-nothing. Single camera is a production style for sitcoms, it was fairly rare around 2006-2007, but is quickly becoming the norm. It is relevant to note that it is made in the single camera style because it is relevant. If an article starts off saying that a movie is a film noir, you needn't post "This is relevant how?". It is relevant and your question is not.

For the guy who asked "How is it single camera?? The scenes are clearly shot from a number of different angles!?", there is a website called wikipedia.org where they have an article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-camera_setup, so please spend ten seconds there before asking a question that is already answered in the same place you are about to ask the question.

The term "single camera" isn't meant to be the maximum number of cameras that can be owned/rented/used by a producer, it is just a production style.

It isn't a literal term. Much like film noir means black film but isn't just a black piece of film that results from the production, single camera is just a style.

Approximately 90% of all American sitcoms have used the standard live audience multiple camera style, where they normally have three camera operators using rolling camera tripods just like a TV news set has (but usually film, not video), moving back and forth across the stage in front of the set, usually getting a crossed view of the action from different angles, with all three filming at once. When the show stars athletes or singers (who aren't singers, either), it takes about eight hours to get twenty minutes in the can, but when the show employs real actors, it goes by very quickly, and the final edited result is relying on 2-3 views most of the time. In almost every case, it is filmed from the start to the end, where single camera shows are shot in whatever order works with the cast and filming permits. Multi-camera has almost no set up shots, where the single camera style either has shots set up on various tripods, cranes, and dollies, or using a handheld camera or Steadicam.

An error in another comment posted above (and some articles) about single camera is that it is done as a low budget cost-cutting measure. That isn't true now, and probably never was. They spent more on the production of last season of My Name is Earl than they could possibly spend on a sitcom stage. My suspicion is that the producers pad their pay by renting excessive resources from their own company or from vendors who are giving them a kickback (yes, it is a federal crime, but has been done in every industry and every country since the beginning of time, so I don't think TV types are above that). For example, in one episode of My Name is Earl, they got filming permits for four city blocks of L.A., closing off both curbs for an entire city block for three days, and had production trucks, generators, and toilets lined up for almost an entire block, and what came out of that was a ten-minute apartment interior/yard scene that could have been shot for $50 with a camcorder. They spent three days, paying 50+ union people plus night security, where in the live studio, they'd have to do that plus all the rest of the show while the same audience is still seated, so it is far cheaper to do multi-camera.--208.127.100.22 (talk) 09:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

why was it cancelled?

I think the article should expend on why the show was cancelled. Annoyingly, the article referred by this article says "it didn't come as a suprise better off ted has been canceled" over and over again, without giving any indication as to why that is. --bitbit (pka Nezek) ^(talk) 23:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Makes me wonder why did they cancel it as well. Low ratings? Strange, since everything else was pretty "stale" when "Better off Ted" came in... and lets face it - evil corporation bent on world domination? Thats classic and never-ending source of comedy material... or at least i thought so. --Electricitydrive (talk) 13:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Its believed in some areas of the entertainment industry that the show was dropped because of similarities in the fictional company depicted in the show and General Electric. Fox poking the bear GE/NBC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.237.113.189 (talk) 12:08, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's just silly. It was cancelled due to low ratings. 19:33, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

inaccuracy in latest update

The top paragraph now claims that the first of the two unaired-in-the-US episodes is scheduled for August 24 in Australia. That's incorrect. The first of the two already aired in Australia on the 17th; it's the second one, aka the season 2 finale that airs on the 24th. The list of episodes correctly lists these dates. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.129.135.10 (talk) 10:45, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Better Off Ted/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: -- Cirt (talk) 17:59, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this article. -- Cirt (talk) 17:59, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's no reviewing going on here at all. Maybe it may be better to let someone else take the review?RAIN..the..ONE ^HOTLINE 13:10, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this article, since it doesn't look like Cirt will get to it. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 23:36, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the issues I found with the article:

"Fresco has stated that he himself doesn't like the show's title, but hasn't spoken of changing it." hadn't; make sure everything's past tense.

  *Addressed. User:AndrewAllen15

I'd prefer citations for recurring characters + ted's daughter, as they currently don't have any.

  *Added a citation for Ted's daughter. However, couldn't find sources for recurring characters, so moved them to character page. User:AndrewAllen15

"Ryan is garrulous person," is a

  *Changed to talkative. User:AndrewAllen15

There are a myriad of deadlinks; see here

  *Removed all the dead links. User:AndrewAllen15

Malcolm Barrett is a disambiguation page in the casting section.

  *Fixed the Malcolm Barrett link. User:AndrewAllen15

I'll put the article on hold and will pass it when the issues are fixed. If they're not fixed within a week, the article will be failed. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:49, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. I have one more remaining concern after double-checking the article. The ratings table feels a bit out of place; it would fit better in the list of episodes for the series. A paragraph could then be added in the reception regarding its ratings. I'll leave this up to you but I think it would work better. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 18:59, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  *I moved the ratings section to the episodes page. I'll work on making a ratings paragraph. User:AndrewAllen15

Everything checks out now. I feel like something's missing since the article is a bit on the short side for a TV series. I'll sleep on it and double-check other GAs. Only thing they seem to have that this doesn't is a section on writers, but the producer did most of that so it doesn't really apply. If I don't see anything else, I'll pass this as a GA tomorrow. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see anything else needed, so I'll pass this as a GA. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:06, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Veridian Dynamics=Aperture Science?

Doesn't Veridian Dynamics have a certain simularity to the fictional science company Aperture Science from the game Portal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.184.95.106 (talk) 22:26, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see where you're going, but I think it is closer to the actual giant military industrial conglomerate General Dynamics. Mdwyer (talk) 16:30, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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