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Legal issues

There has been edit warring over the inclusion of Hynes' legal issues. Spdrcr19, please explain why this content that references reliable sources should be removed. It does not appear false or even misleading. ––FormalDude (talk) 08:16, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

100% false. He was NOT found guilty of a single crime. Being charged with something is not being found guilty. Nor was he found guilty by a jury or admitted guilty in anyway. So indeed what Im ben online is trying to say is not properly sourced and is not factual Spdrcr19 (talk) 08:20, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The content you are removing does not say he was found guilty. ––FormalDude (talk) 08:22, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All of the content removed was NOT sourced. Spdrcr19 (talk) 08:25, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What are these then? Bill Hynes#cite note-7, Bill Hynes#cite note-32. ––FormalDude (talk) 08:28, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. Spdrcr19 (talk) 08:29, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not unsourced or poorly sourced. ––FormalDude (talk) 08:31, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very poorly sourced and will

need additional sources it is libelous and the people associated with it are being sued for defamation. Spdrcr19 (talk) 08:33, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're skirting very close to a legal threat. Please see WP:NLT and don't pursue this line of argument. The content was adequately sourced. — Czello ^(music) 08:34, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a legal threat. People are indeed being sued. https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/local/2023/03/09/new-front-opens-in-think-loud-legal-saga-as-bill-hynes-files-defamation-suit/69987058007/ Spdrcr19 (talk) 08:37, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you're not making a threat towards Wikipedia or its editors then other people being sued doesn't matter. Billy Mitchell sues people, but it doesn't make him any less of a fraud.

All we've done is report on the facts of his arrests, settlements, and pleas. It all is sourced, and your blanket removal of them smells like whitewashing. — Czello ^(music) 08:49, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. Spdrcr19 (talk) 08:51, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you stuck in a loop? As FormalDude said, it's not unsourced or poorly sourced. — Czello ^(music) 08:53, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming "it" is

"In September 2022 he plead no contest to felony criminal trespass, felony theft by deception, two counts of felony forgery, misdemeanor stalking, and misdemeanor simple assault for incidents in 2018/2019 regarding a former female employee with whom he had an intimate relationship. He was in house arrest as of February 18, 2023.^[1]^[2]"

References

^ Segelbaum, Dylan. "York CEO Bill Hynes arrested on charges related to assault, stalking, PFA violation". York Daily Record. Retrieved 2023-04-19.
^ Greene, Andy (2023-02-18). "How an Alleged Con Man Tore Apart One of the Nineties' Biggest Bands". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 2023-04-19.

Then Czello is right. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:30, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know this? What is your association with Bill Hynes? ––FormalDude (talk) 08:35, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was in the paper. That’s how. Zero association. What is your association against hynes ???? Spdrcr19 (talk) 08:36, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since you upload pics [1] you say you have taken of him, it's a reasonable question. What is your WP:COI here? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:09, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/local/2023/03/09/new-front-opens-in-think-loud-legal-saga-as-bill-hynes-files-defamation-suit/69987058007/ Spdrcr19 (talk) 08:38, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Segelbaum, Dylan. "York CEO Bill Hynes arrested on charges related to assault, stalking, PFA violation". York Daily Record. Retrieved 2023-04-19.

[2] Greene, Andy (2023-02-18). "How an Alleged Con Man Tore Apart One of the Nineties' Biggest Bands". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 2023-04-19.

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