Talk:Bill Steele (baseball)

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Review: July 13, 2021. (Reviewed version).

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Wizardman (talk · contribs) 14:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give this a review sometime in the next couple days. To start with, I did a quick image review, and for the card, I found a much larger/more accurate image here. The cards were definitely not that bright so whoever put that on amazon monkeyed with it a bit and hurt the image quality as a result. Aside from that everything's good. Wizardman 14:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Created a file for the better image, swapped it out, and nominated the other one for deletion. Thanks for finding the better image. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 21:26, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review done, everything looks reliable and appropriately linked. Prose review to follow. Wizardman 22:43, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Started reviewing the prose and found one thing so far. The sentence "It was not the last time Steele's life would be imperiled by a streetcar" doesn't feel necessary. I get why it was added in but it starts to lean on the flowery side just for the sake of it. That's all I got so far, I haven't been on the mindset today to really sit down and sweep through the whole thing. Wizardman 03:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay, the week ended up being a mess. Here's what I found on the prose:

" It was not the last time Steele's life would be imperiled by a streetcar" I'd just get rid of the sentence. It starts to lean into puffery just for the sake of it, plus since it's mentioned in the lead I imagine lay readers would already know.
"and wound up completing 37 of 39 games he started for the Mountaineers." I would just make it "and completed 37..." to tune the language a bit.
"However, he had a 3.73 ERA, which baseball historian Frank Russo called a "respectable" figure." 3.73 in the midst of the deadball era really wasn't good (the team's 3.68 ERA put them 7th out of 8), so despite the reference I'm kinda questioning the factual nature of this. If you think it should say I won't push the matter, but it does feel a little bit dishonest to me.
- I think I kind of agree with you on that, so taking it out. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 02:13, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"He left the team in the middle of March, and the Cardinals did not know where he was when the season began. They kept him officially on the roster, however, because they needed pitchers. Steele rejoined the team a week into the season and "prolonged his big-league career," according to the Post-Dispatch," For as heavy as the referencing is in the article I was surprised to find this chunk unref'd when it definitely should be.
- The SABR reference still covered it, but I added a cite after the sentence with the quotes in it (probably more accurate). Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 02:16, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Overall, the article starts to get a bit quote-heavy, namely in the pitching style section. See if there's one or two things you can write in your own words, though of course with a lot of these quotes that's not going to be possible without missing the point of the quote.
- Changed a few of the quotes to just prose. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 02:21, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly good overall, article on hold until the issues are fixed. Wizardman 16:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks good now, so I'll pass the article. Wizardman 23:05, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]