Talk:Birth of the Cool

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Recording Order[edit]

The recording order seems to differ under the headings Recording and Recording Dates. 2001:18E8:2:11B7:25BE:8286:7814:C59A (talk) 15:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Boplicity composer[edit]

I'm pretty sure "Boplicity" is by Gil Evans and Miles Davis -- 13:06, 2005 July 8 (UTC)

I thought the same thing, but I could be wrong. I'm an idiot for not owning this CD, so when I pick it up I'll come back here and fix/add what I can. Uttaddmb 03:40, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
It does say Cleo Henry on the back of my copy (2001 RVG reissue on CD). According to this, however, it was composed by Evans & Davis and merely credited to Henry. As it's officially credited to Henry, his name should stay, but we could add a note about its true origins (though some more support for this notion besides a single online article should be required first). ¦ Reisio 03:51, 2005 July 20 (UTC)
The Cleo Henry article says the name is Davis's grandmother's, and he and Evans did write the tune. --ajn (talk) 11:03, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
...right. I don't really doubt that it's Davis and Evans, but let's not resort to basing all our information off quasi-stubs written by anonymous users. ¦ Reisio 15:05, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Ian Carr's biography, p55. --ajn (talk) 15:17, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
This is accurate. I've added this and cited a respectable source (Sultanof's article on the subject). Ehburrus (talk) 16:36, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Complete Birth of the Cool[edit]

The "Complete Birth of the Cool" CD includes detailed notes by Pete Welding about the origins and history of the nonet, which I've taken most of tonight's additions from. It also includes a shorter piece by Gerry Mulligan from 1971 in which he says Miles was the bandleader, one by Mike Zwerin (who played in the Royal Roost band but not on the studio recordings), and one by Phil Schaap about the radio broadcasts. It seems anal to me to insist that BOTC means the eleven tracks on the original 12" LP, the CD insert says that "Darn That Dream" has been included on the album for more than thirty years. (On getting out the RVG reissue, the Welding and Mulligan pieces are used as notes for that too, but not the Zwerin or Schaap). --ajn (talk) 22:45, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Category error?[edit]

Why under 1957 albums? Should be 1950, no?

It was released in 1957. The date is the release date. Regards.--GoPTCN 11:03, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Cleo Henry is a false name given due to contractual copyright problems; it is Davis and Evans. Charlie Parker used the false name of Charlie Chan because he was under contract from one recording company and then had recorded for another. This is not uncommon during that time of the 40s and 50s.

Jcooper1 (talk) 02:15, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Birth of the Cool/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article requirements:

Green tickY All the start class criteria
Green tickY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
Green tickY At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
Green tickY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
Red XN A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
Green tickY Categorisation at least by artist and year
Green tickY A casual reader should learn something about the album.

Lacks technical personnel. Andrzejbanas (talk) 07:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Last edited at 07:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 09:44, 29 April 2016 (UTC)