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- 1 Brand New Morning
- 2 Old Time Rock
- 3 Error in the link
- 4 Jail?
- 5 Bob Saget Vs. Bob Seger
- 6 Full House
- 7 Sales
- 8 Turn the Page
- 9 Fire Down Below
- 10 "2+2=4.90684325"
- 11 New Album?
- 12 English
- 13 Silver Bullet Band
- 14 Bob Seger's biography does not adhere to the wikipedia's Neutral Point of View Policy
- 15 Incomplete list of referenced sources for Later Years-1988 to present section
- 16 More about Bob's influence on Thin Lizzy
- 17 Hello/Correction?
- 18 Flatulence?
- 19 Relative chart position needs clarification
- 20 Songs of the Century
- 21 The Last Heard
- 22 Assessment comment
Brand New Morning
Just curious if it would be acceptable to add this statement in the album information for the abovementioned album: "Like Noah, it's unlikely this album will see a reissue. A rumor has circulated that Seger was so dissatisfied with the record that he dug a hole with a bulldozer and simply buried a large quantity of unsold copies." ... I may be able to scare up a reference for the comment, I've forgotten if it included mention of a location where this was done (it would sound better to say "...a hole on a farm in Michigan..."). Pontiac59 (talk) 08:48, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Old Time Rock
Does anyone Know when Bob Seger Wrote Old time Rock and Roll? --Davo50 22:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Old Rythym Section. [20:18, 26 October 2005 Snr Chris]
I've read comments that Seger rewrote portions of the song when he recorded it, but left the credits to the original writers, which is why it's been used in so many places where Seger retained control over his other work and did not allow it to be used in films or commercials. Pontiac59 (talk) 08:50, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
There is an error in the Greatest Hits 2 link. It points to a URL which has information for the Album Greatest Hits 2 by Oak Ridge Boys. Draz99 07:10, 26 December 2005 (UTC) Draz99
- Fixed. Wasted Time R 13:44, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
I had heard that Segar went to jail recently for smuggling cigarettes into Canada, any truth to this?randazzo56 00:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- No. Wasted Time R 01:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)hgjkkkyghmgvm
- Concur...I have seen nothing about Seger involved in smuggling, cigarettes or anything of the like in the news. That is trash....Engr105th 05:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
POV: I having made the mistake, at Waffle House, between the two find that my addition to the article was legitimate. Their names being so close cause a general confusion between these two great and popular artists.
Did Bob record Beautiful Loser before or after Full House? Flagg 29 [21:35, 4 October 2006 ]
- What is Full House? Wasted Time R 12:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm an idiot (he says, a month and a half later). Wasted Time R 15:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
What about record-sales of Bob Seger in the U.S.? Especially of the newer ones since the beginning of the Nielsen Soundscan era. Can you tell? [10:49, 25 October 2006 126.96.36.199]
- There is a website someplace where sales-obsessed wikipedians get each week's soundscan album figures, but I don't know what it is. Wasted Time R 12:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Turn the Page
I don't see any mention of 'Turn the Page' in this article. It seems to also be one of his most popular works, not to mention come-back popularity with the cover by Metallica. Which era was it written in? Which album was it on? etc... [16:19, 14 November 2006 188.8.131.52]
- It's there, towards the end of the 'Regional favorite' section, and it's linked to the article on the song itself. Wasted Time R 19:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Fire Down Below
As a native Detroit-er myself one of my favorite Seger songs is Fire Down Below. There was no mention of this song in the Seger bio, why not? And how his song rank in Seger's list of hits?--184.108.40.206 17:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)--220.127.116.11 17:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)--18.104.22.168 17:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
"2+2=4.90684325": Is that really the name of a song (album?) because at the end where they are all listed, there is "2+2=?". Did someone change the question mark to a number? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 05:47, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
Does anyone know anything about the (rumored) new album Seger might do? I've heard some things about it - one being a song called "Outland" is on it - but not much. Anyone have any more info? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 00:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Silver Bullet Band
There is a contradiction in the article. One place it says he put the band together in 1973 and another place he did it in 1974. Does anybody know the correct year?--Mycomp (talk) 14:50, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Bob Seger's biography does not adhere to the wikipedia's Neutral Point of View Policy
Bob Seger's wikipedia article was clearly written by his publicist to dispel any notions that Bob Seger has been forgotten.
Minor studio sessions are presented as evidence of his ongoing musical relevance, and I think this undermines the wikipedia's policies Neutral Point of View Policy.
- Um, no, it just reports on his current activity. Your opinion that he has been forgotten is a singular one, and not reflective of the bulk of the scholarship on this subject. --Jayron32 06:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Hey Jayron, thank you for writing.
I agree that Bob Seger has not been completely forgotten (who is?); but mostly forgotten seems reasonable given that Bob Seger current renown is limited.Bob Seger last hit song was over 20 years ago, most people under the age of 30 will not know of Bob Seger.
Moreover, the article list of references is incomplete; representations about Bob Seger in the “Later years: 1988-present” section do not cite any sources which is a separate criticism that speaks to neutrality as well.
06:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
There is lot that "most people under the age of 30 will not know" that is useful, interesting, relevant and important. Bob Seger is a giant on whose shoulders others giants now stand - Thin Lizzy, U2, Metallica, The Coors to name but a few - but then most people under the age of 20 will not know them either. That's their loss. It's our job to inform and educate those poor benighted "hethens". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 21:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Incomplete list of referenced sources for Later Years-1988 to present section
Numerous repesentations about Bob Seger's activities are completely unsourced and without any citations or footnotes. Can not be verified.
- Not having footnotes does not mean it cannot be verified. One can pick up a copy of Born Free (Kid Rock album) and find his name in the liner notes, for example. That's verifiable. Likewise, though not directly cited, the RIAA (the group that certifies albums in the U.S.) has certified his 2006 album Face the Promise as platinum, see  and enter the album title in the search field. --Jayron32 07:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Bob Seger believes he was born in Ann Arbor, not Lincoln Heights, nor Dearborn Heights. A birth certificate should be found. I might try to do this, but not right away. Others would be wellcome to help through Intellus or yellow pages. Probably not on these resources, but might be. Need to find a legal way of finding a copy of his Birth Certificate.```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phildurr (talk • contribs) 14:08, 16 November 2012 (UTC) Speaking with an attorney, there might be three, or four people with similiar names. Bob Seger, I believe, was born in Ann Arbor, and not in Lincoln Park, nor Dearborn Heights. I will try and find a hard copy of his birth certificate as evidence.Phildurr (talk) 14:51, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
More about Bob's influence on Thin Lizzy
I believe Thin Lizzy backed Bob on Tour in the USA in the 1970s or 1980s, as mentioned in the 3 books on the Thin Lizzy. Surprised it is not mentioned here. They loved his music, particularly the song Rosalie which they enjoyed listening to each night. The story goes that when Bob dropped the song from his set Thin Lizzy took it up - like them its a great Irish rocker! I also believe the Thin Lizzy guitarists may have played on one of Bob's tracks - the harmony Les Paul sound is very distinctive (and played on BBC Radio 2 this week). It's an important music relationship/link, as Metallica, U2 and The Coors, for example, were in turn influenced by Thin Lizzy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 20:54, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, then, please be our guest. Every word in this article was written by people who are not any more special than you. Since you have access to the books, please cite those books and make the necessary changes! --Jayron32 21:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Not sure how this works at all but I wiki everything! This article on Bob Seger states that, "Seger has stated that the first musicians "that really got to me" were Little Richard and Elvis Presley. Just previous to reading Bob Seger's Wiki entry I had watched a video clip of a TV interview from December 16, 1976, Channel WUTR-TV, Utica, NY where he says and I quote, "Never really was a big fan of Elvis except for his early recordings like Houndog. The hard ones." He tells the interviewer that his 1st & probably biggest influence is James Brown. And of course being from Detroit, Motown, Chuck Berry & Little Richard.
So I think that Elvis should be removed as an influence from this article.
In the personal history section there is an uncited assertion that Mr. Seger has struggled with flatulence throughout his life. I'm guessing that this is a joke that should be removed. If not, a citation would strengthen this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 14:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Many mrn suffer from fltulance. Indeed, when my dynamic IP landed on 18.104.22.168, I had great volumes of flatulance. I have been able to gain a private office and company car due to my uncontrolable flatulance. Gas can be a good thing. 2601:8:9180:604:219:D1FF:FEA8:25F0 (talk) 02:00, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Relative chart position needs clarification
I have an issue with the logic here:
"... 'Shame on the Moon'. It was the biggest hi of the Silver Bullet Band's entire career, hitting #1 on the Adult Contemporary chart and holding at #2 for four consecutive weeks - behind Patti Austin and James Ingram's 'Baby, Come to Me' and Michael Jackson's 'Billie Jean' "
Songs of the Century
The article says "His iconic recording of 'Old Time Rock and Roll' was named one of the Songs of the Century in 2001," but it is not on the linked list of songs. Delete the sentence? Languagehat (talk) 16:03, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
The Last Heard
The story goes that The Last Heard had to be re-christened The Bob Seger System as 'last heard' sounds like 'last turd'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:50, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
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