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Controversy

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Can someone give context on that last sentence? Representatives aren't required to live in the district they represent. What's the issue there / how can we clarify? dmesg—Preceding undated comment added by Dmesg (talkcontribs) 07:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Parties

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I just added to thetop of the page the two parties that he served for. - Jibajabba—Preceding undated comment added by Jibajabba (talkcontribs) 22:48, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 29 June 2018

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved as proposed with respect to the first proposal; moved to Bob Stump (Arizona politician, born 1971) as to the second. The "(Arizona politician)" title will redirect to the primary topic, being the U.S. Congressman, which restores an overall status quo ante that was changed without discussion. bd2412 T 00:05, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

– The article about the US Congressman was moved without discussion or comment back in 2016. The congressman is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC due to his 25+ years in the US Congress, otherwise Bob Stump would've been turned into a disambiguation page itself. In contrast, the Arizona state legislator and later cabinet-level administrator is less notable. However, disambiguating his article as "Arizona politician" is still ambiguous, due to the more famous Bob Stump also being from Arizona. Thus, I am proposing "born 1971" instead, similar to Barbara Bush (born 1981) being about a First Daughter in contrast to Barbara Bush being about the more famous First Lady. Arbor to SJ (talk) 21:51, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. This is a very unusual case. Although normally in a WP:TWODABS situation like this, it's best to have one article at the base name with a hatnote pointing to the other, in this case pageviews don't indicate a WP:primary topic, and while a Congressman might 'outrank' a more local politician in long-term significance, here we have two politicians from the same state with the same name who could easily be confused with each other by some people. I think this is a rare case where Bob Stump should be a dab page, for the benefit of readers, even though there are only two articles. As to the qualifiers, birth dates are almost never recommended except as a last resort, because most searchers are more likely to be looking for that fact than to know it in advance. Although the nom has a point that the current qualifiers are not ideal, I think the hatnotes on each article deal with that issue. Bob Stump (born 1971) could be a redirect, though. Station1 (talk) 22:50, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at pageviews dating back to the earliest available figures from August 2016, the article about Congressman Stump has been more popular in the long term except for the period in late 2017 and early 2018 when the state legislator Bob Stump attracted attention for his matching name. Arbor to SJ (talk) 06:00, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.