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GA reassessment of Seventh-day Adventist Church[edit]

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Adventist studies[edit]

At Talk:Adventist studies I have proposed enlarging the existing merge to the goal of merging and deleting the whole article. Let me know your thoughts there, thanks. JJB 18:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Christianity portals[edit]

I am currently trying to get together some lists of articles relevant to each Christianity-related portal which could be used, at least potentially, to help bring all the extant portals up to Featured Portal status. The current, admittedly incomplete, list of articles, images, etc., relevant to each portal can be found at User:John Carter/Christianity portals. I also think that, at least in theory, we would probably best use a single article only in a single portal, and that we probably have enough articles to do that, although there might be a few exceptions. I would welcome input from anyone on the associated talk page regarding which articles and other materials they would like to see associated with which portal(s), any suggestions for additional portals or changes to existing portals, etc. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 15:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Historicism (Christianity)[edit]

Your review of the article Historicism (Christianity) is requested. A new editor has begun to revise it substantially and some oversight is needed in that regard. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 16:54, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Request for input in discussion forum[edit]

Given the closely linked subjects of the various religion, mythology, and philosophy groups, it seems to me that we might benefit from having some sort of regular topical discussion forum to discuss the relevant content. I have put together the beginnings of an outline for such discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/2011 meeting, and would very much appreciate the input of any interested editors. I am thinking that it might run over two months, the first of which would be to bring forward and discuss the current state of the content, and the second for perhaps some more focused discussion on what, if any, specific efforts might be taken in the near future. Any and all input is more than welcome. John Carter (talk)

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ARTICLE DELETION NOTICE[edit]

An article within the scope of this project, Generation of Youth for Christ‎‎, has been nominated for deletion. You can weigh in here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Generation of Youth for Christ‎‎. – Lionel (talk) 06:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Appropriate re-directs[edit]

I am concerned about two redirects:

both Conservative Adventism and Conservative Adventist redirect to Historic Adventism. I'm personally uncomfortable with this, because in Oregon there was a group called the "Historical Seventh-Day Adventist Church" which was very much against the General Conference. I'm disclosing my personal bias. Perhaps "Historic Adventist" is a label that conservative Adventists in most locations identify with, but most conservative Adventists I know tend to be highly supportive of the General Conference. Would a few of our illustrious editors take a look at this? I know that defining nomenclature in Adventist theology is a minefield, so I apologize in advance for any problems I may be inadvertently causing. 78.26 (talk) 14:49, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi 78.26, I have a few ideas. Don't worry about the redirects. On the Historic Adventism article notice where it says:
"Historic Adventism has also been applied by some to any Adventists that adhere to the historical teachings of the church as reflected in the church's fundamental beliefs such as the Sabbath or the Spirit of Prophecy. The term 'Conservative Adventist' for these individuals is synonymous with 'Historic Adventist'."
Let's expand this paragraph. Find reliable third party sources that define the terms. Perhaps we can work on this together. Let me know. Also, at some point the main Seventh-day Adventist article should have a section documenting the liberal-conservative divide within Adventism. We would need to find third party sources that describe this feature of Adventism. Again, rather than being concerned about the redirects, work the articles as they currently exist. Find third party sources that say what you think should be said. DonaldRichardSands (talk) 15:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks for your thoughts. I guess my concern with the re-directs is that while Historic Adventists would probably consider themselves conservative, many self-described conservative Adventists would not consider themselves "Historic". In fact most of the self-described conservative Adventists I know don't even have a problem with Seventh-day Adventists Answer Questions on Doctrine. I would rather that these are re-directed to Seventh-day Adventist theology rather than here. All this aside, I agree that expanding the paragraph is a fantastic idea, and I'm more than willing to help, and the section you mention for the main article is sorely needed and probably long-overdue. I feel rather unqualified to edit this. I consider myself a "moderate" SDA (do we need article for this?) but think that the Church needs both the conservative and liberal factions, so long as they remain based in scripture. Anyway, I don't think finding third-party references on the subject would be difficult. The difficulty would be finding objective, academic sources. An oxymoron? <grin> 78.26 (talk) 16:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
  • One person has compared the liberal and conservative factions in an organization to two oars on a rowboat. If only one oar functions, the boat goes in circles. :) DonaldRichardSands (talk) 00:18, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Militant atheism[edit]

Please see the discussion at Talk:Militant atheism#Split article. – Lionel (talk) 04:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Leonard R. Brand AfD[edit]

Hi all, I have noted that the Leonard R. Brand article, created October 2007, has been nominated for deletion. Expert advice regarding the article or Brand's notability is welcomed. DonaldRichardSands (talk) 21:59, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

AfD[edit]

Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denton E. Rebok. If anyone can provide more sources for this article that would be good. I am not an expert but he seems to be a fairly important person in his field, but as it is the article does not establish that WP-wise. BigJim707 (talk) 16:10, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Proposed redirection of Christianity subproject talk pages[edit]

I have recently started discussion about possibly eliminating the use of a separate talk page for it here. Input from any interested editors is very welcome and encouraged. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 22:20, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Nominated for deletion: Homosexuality and Seventh-day Adventism[edit]

This article has been nominated for deletion: Homosexuality and Seventh-day Adventism. If you want to weigh in on this discussion go here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homosexuality and Seventh-day Adventism. – Lionel (talk) 21:35, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Proposed changes to main project page[edit]

I think it would make sense to maybe alter the main project pages of the various groups and WikiProjects which directly and more or less exclusively relate to Christianity in a broad sense into pages similar to those of the various units of the Military History WikiProject, like, for instance, WP:FMH. Would it be agreeable to the members here to make such an alteration, and, maybe, turn the extant project talk page into a redirect to the new Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard? I think doing so would probably increase the number of editors who see any relevant notices, and might increase the number of editors working on the related content. John Carter (talk) 21:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Request for a member to volunteer as a somewhat official gatekeeper[edit]

More or less as a follow-up to the subject immediately above, I was wondering if there would be any individuals willing to step forward to serve as "gatekeepers" for any matters relating to this topic and its associated articles. They would probably, primarily, just monitor the related content, and bring to the attention of the editors of Christianity related content any extant problems regarding POV, requests for peer review and maybe GA and FA candidacy and review, and similar functions. And, if and when we have elections for coordinators again, like those at WP:MILHIST, for instance, I would myself like to see such individuals be candidates for such posts. Anyway, anyone interested? John Carter (talk) 21:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

AfD - Chapel Records[edit]

Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chapel Records. Can anyone help me rescue this article? The record label has been very significant in the course of Adventist Music, particularly in the 1960s and 1970s, heyday of Del Decker, King's Heralds, Heritage Singers, etc. Thanks! 78.26 (talk) 01:54, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

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Daniel 7[edit]

I was reading the article in the headline, and I bumped into the section Seventh-Day Adventists:

Concerning the "little horn", interpreters of the Historicist school (e.g. Adventist) identify the "little horn" as Papal Rome that came to power among the 10 Barbarians tribes (the 10 horns) that had broken up the Pagan Roman empire. The reference to changing "times and law" (Daniel 7:25) refers to the change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. The "time, times and half a time" (Daniel 7:25) was the 1260 years spanning 538 AD and 1798 AD, when the Roman Church dominated the Christian world. (See Day-year principle for details)

Daniel_7#Seventh-Day_Adventists

The text above is pretty good, the problem is that there are no citations or referencences. I do have material supporting the text, but it's in Spanish. If anyone here has a book at home about this topic, I'd be thankfull if he/she provides a nice citation. Best regards, --Cristian ] Yes? 01:57, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Adventist biographies[edit]

I have been working on fixing the pages that link to Seventh-day Adventist Church to avoid redirects. I just ran across about 4 biographies in a row (James R. Nix, George R. Knight, etc.) that all list occupations in a box in the upper right, sometimes with other information. I guess this is okay, though it would be better if the person doing it created a regular biography box instead. But the main issue I have with each of these is that the first line under the "occupation" heading is "Seventh-day Adventist" or "Seventh-day Adventists" (even worse), which, last time I checked, are not actual professions. I agree that being Adventist is an important part of the life of these people, and has significant effect on their professions, but that doesn't make belonging to the denomination into an occupation on its own. On some of the biographies I have left comments on the corresponding talk pages, but now that I see there is a trend, I thought I'd bring it up here. I think that line should simply be removed, though I did try to remove the <br> on one of them, so that it read "Seventh-day Adventist Historian," "Historian" being what was listed as the next occupation. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 01:25, 19 July 2015 (UTC)