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Spelling[edit]

Norwitch doesn't have a t. Norwich. I'd edit it directly, but I don't have a login.

Brad's Prosecutor going to work for "international financial institutions"[edit]

You can say what you want about the DOJ's position. But it *is* interesting that Kevin Downing is being hired to work for the big banks.

“The focus of the federal government on criminal tax enforcement is going to continue at an aggressive pace,” Patricia Sweeney, chairwoman of Miller & Chevalier’s tax department, said in the statement. Downing’s “understanding of both civil and criminal enforcement issues unique to international financial institutions will be of great benefit.” [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.197.254.3 (talk) 19:44, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Isn't this normal? Isn't the revolving door normal? Who is the prosecutor. Is he famous like Vincent Bugliosi? Did he go to work for a firm that has UBS as a client?Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 19:27, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
It would be significant if you could link Downing to UBS before the case. Was he in private practice? Even then it probably would only be hearsay. I doubt he was as he would have had to recuse himself no doubt.Duchesstimesxtwo (talk) 16:09, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 July 2012[edit]

Please change all instances of "USB" to "UBS" to reflect the bank's official name.

Under the "Banking career" section, please change "solicit wealthy Americans to invest in the bank" to "solicity wealthy Americans to open accounts in the bank".

In that same section, please change "supplied by Birkenfeld" to "supplied by UBS".

In "USB's practices" [should be changed to "UBS's practices], please change "17,000 clients" to "19,000 clients".

In that same section, please change "5,000 Americans" to "4,500 Americans".

Under the "Whistleblowing and arrest" section, after the sentence "The DOJ responded that it was not part of the IRS's whisteleblower program and that it would not grant Birkenfeld immunity." please add the following: "The DOJ also refused to subpoena relevant parties and records to further pursue the matter."

In that same section, please change "Birkenfeld also wanted immunity from prosecution" to "Birkenfeld requested immunity from prosecution or a subpoena".

At the end of the paragraph, please add the following as the last sentence: "However, many important players have recognized Birkenfeld as an important, original source of the information, including Senator Levin, Chairman of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Robert Khuzami, the Director of Enforcement of the SEC, and Senator Grassley."

Thank you very much and please let me know if you have any questions!

LindseyW827 (talk) 15:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I changed the instances of USB to UBS. I made none of the other changes. The invest/open accounts is dubious. They're similar terms. To some extent when one deposits money in a bank, one invests in the bank. Based on the source, it looked more general to me than just opening accounts. They wanted people's money - it's not clear that they only way they got it was by accounts. Maybe you have a better source for it? The supplied issue stays the way it is. It's no doubt true that UBS issued the cards, but Birkenfeld gave the investors the cards (that's in the source). The two numbers changes are not source-compliant. The first subpoena issue is not in the source. The second subpoena issue is unnecessary detail. The last request you will need to provide a source for it because the source that is at the end of that paragraph doesn't support it. I do appreciate how clear your instructions were. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 01:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Where do you find that info on Levin & Co., Lindsey? Government Web sites? I was going to add some information from the testimony on sexual harassment of women in the military after watching the hearings to relevant articles, but when I looked for the transcript, it seems you have to pay for the information. Is that how it is? Bbb23, do we have a Project or Roundrobin on how to access government information? You search on subjects, find what would be good info, and then it's on some Web site like democracy underground that doesn't properly source. It's frustrating. (I thought investigating old ballplayers and fighters was hard! This is testimony from last month I saw on cable TV!)Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 19:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Change artice name to Bradley Birkenfeld from Brad Birkenfeld[edit]

Dear Everyone,

I propose to rename the article to Bradley Birkenfeld from Brad Birkenfeld or, in the alternative, have a redirect from Brad Birkenfeld to the Bradley Birkenfeld article. Three different authors[2][3][4] have used Bradley Birkenfeld as his name. Also the IRS Offshore Tax-Avoidance and IRS Compliance Efforts announcement lists his conviction under the name Bradley Birkenfeld. For the above reasons, I know my proposal should be adopted.

Please discuss. Geraldshields11 (talk) 13:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

He's called "Bradley" in the "60 Minutes" interview I just watched. That seems to be his name.Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 18:34, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I think the article should be entitled "Bradley Birkenfeld". Looking at the history, I see that it was created by Jesslyn Raddack. Ms. Raddack is not only a whistleblower herself but works or worked for one of the organizations that petitioned Attorney General Eric Holder for an investigation. She either knows Birkenfeld or felt some comradery with him as a fellow whistleblower and called him "Brad" (a nickname) instead of Bradley, which is what articles, law suits, etc. refer to him as. It's one thing to use a nickname professional and be known by that name like say an actor and another to be dubbed a nickname by a Wikipedia contributor. Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 16:13, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
In the "memo" he wrote for World Policy Journal in Spring 2010 he uses the name "Bradley"Duchesstimesxtwo (talk) 16:12, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

This Article Needs Work[edit]

Steve Kroft says that Birkenfeld is one of the most important whistleblowers ever. Isn't he to the Swiss banking industry (and U.S. tax cheats) what Edward Snowden is to the NSA??Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 18:34, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Please Put in Info on Your Change[edit]

Please put a precis of the info you changed or added in the Summary box at the bottom of the page. Thank you! Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 05:41, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Union Charter Ltd.[edit]

Anyone hear of it? An outfit named Union Charter has a web site. It says on its Web site, "Union Charter is not an investment bank, merchant bank, savings and loan, commercial bank, venture capital fund, lending institution, hedge fund, mutual fund, or brokerage firm." What is it??? Those Swiss bankers! Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 20:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Obama Played Golf with the UBS President????[edit]

I just saw the link in references when I saved my last post. I nearly choked on my coffee. Should I read it? LOL!Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 20:36, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Too bad it's not a reputable source. I searched on Obama, golf and Wolf and find out not only is Robert Wolf Obama's golfing buddy (they went golfing this year too), he's on Obama's jobs council. I can't even write this without laughing. I have no idea where this should go. I'm not going to put it into the article. How about under "Absurdity" or "Theatre of the Absurd"??? I'm gonna have a couple of beers now and go back to writing about spies and murderers. There's something more honest about them compared to bankers and politicians.  ;-) Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 20:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
So Obama is a corrupt cul. George W. Bush still makes him look like Pere Noel in comparison.(Duchesstimesxtwo (talk) 16:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Birkenfeld resigned TWICE from UBS[edit]

The text has Birkenfeld resigning twice from UBS. Quote: "He resigned from UBS in October 2005 and complained to UBS compliance about the bank's "unfair and deceptive business practices". According to Birkenfeld, when he received no response, three months later he wrote to Peter Kurer, then General Counsel for UBS, about the illegal practices.[15] He resigned from UBS in April 2006." Which one is it?Arnold Winkelried (talk) 19:10, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Didn't he get a cash buyout or some kind of settlement from UBS as a whistleblower. This guy knows doesn't leave one teat unsuckled.Duchesstimesxtwo (talk) 16:16, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Need more on Birkenfeld's role as whistleblower and its effect on Swiss banking and bank secrecy[edit]

Reading foreign coverage of Birkenfeled, you find out the Swiss refer to the UBS tax evasion scandal as "L'affaire Birkenfeld" and credit him with bringing down bank secrecy and causing a sea change in the industry. I only put a part of it in the beginning. I think we need an "Influence" section toward the end. The article I cited talked about European reaction. The newspaper mentioned BLICK says that because of Birkenfeld's example, Swiss bankers are more rebellious, more unwilling to engage in questionable activities.Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 22:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

He definitely led to a revolution in the Confoederatio Helvetica. You should check Swiss sources but they will be in French and German. Is that acceptable?Duchesstimesxtwo (talk) 16:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Birkenfeld's Article Available Online and in PDF[edit]

Birkenfeld had some time on his hands at Minersville apparently and wrote an article called "Inside the Cartel" that was published in the Spring 2010 issue of World Policy Journal. The PDF is available here: http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/world_policy_journal/toc/wpj.27.1.html . Also World Journal put it online under another title Bradley Birkenfeld: the Whistleblower In His Own Words. Click on through and there's the text. They seem to be identical. Cheers!Duchesstimesxtwo (talk) 16:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-04/downing-said-to-resign-from-justice-department-tax-post
  2. ^ "U.S. IRS awards $104 million to UBS tax case whistleblower". Reuters. September 11th, 2012. Retrieved September 11th, 2012.  Check date values in: |access-date=, |date= (help)
  3. ^ Coder, Jeremiah (2012). "IRS PAYS BIRKENFELD $ 104 MILLION WHISTLEBLOWER AWARD. (Section 7623 -- Expenses of Detecting Frauds)". Tax Notes Today. 2012 TNT 177-1 (177).  Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  4. ^ Sheppard, Lee A. (September 12, 2012). "NEWS ANALYSIS: SWISS BANKING DEROBED: INTERNATIONAL IMPLICATIONS OF BIRKENFELD". Tax Notes Today. 2012 TNT 177-2 (2012 TNT 177-2).  Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

Deferred Prosecution Agreement[edit]

Should that be explained. Or is there a link-through.Duchesstimesxtwo (talk) 16:25, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

The article reads 'In February 2009, as a result of the information he gave U.S. authorities, the DOJ announced it had reached a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) with UBS that resulted in a $780 million fine and the release of previously privileged information on American tax evaders.[7][8] To settle the SEC’s complaint that it violated the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and the Investment Advisers Act of 1940, UBS agreed to disgorge $200 million in profits, bringing the total amount of the settlement to $980 million.' -- Reading sources the article claiming a 980 million total package of 780 million fine + 200 million disgorged profit seems to be wrong. Only one source quotes 980 figure. Actual details indicate that the bank paid a 580 million fine plus profit coughup worth 200 million for total of 780million. SEC article seems to confuse two cases. No other sources say 980 million.Tricolour1789 (talk) 12:40, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Tricolor is right. I've changed the wording according (though I left the link in to the article with the erroneous info. Should I get rid of it? Probably.Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 20:06, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Drink Driving Arrest[edit]

Why is the only thing under Personal Life Birkenfeld's drink drivings arrest? What happened at the trial. Should be eliminated unless there is a conviction and it effects his life such as being remanded to gaol.Cuddy Banks (talk) 19:20, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Rewrite[edit]

This article is rather sloppy. I've been away from Wiki for awhile but things haven't changed. The intro is too involved and has too much information that should be in the body of the article and in fact doubles information in the article some of it contradictory. Intro should be about the subject, some particulars, what he did to make himself important and why he is important. The details are in the body of the article. Mackenzie0158 (talk) 05:02, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Good work. You seem to have kept everything and made it flow more chronologically and logically but there are some redundancies towards the end.William (The Bill) Blackstone (talk) 16:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Date Format[edit]

There seems to be different format for dates from paragraph to paragraph (DD/MM/YR) vs. (MM/DD/YR) and even within paragraphs. I nominate State Your Name for a cleanp!William (The Bill) Blackstone (talk) 16:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. DrKiernan (talk) 19:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)



Brad BirkenfeldBradley Birkenfeld – Articles refer to Birkenfeld as "Bradley Birkenfeld". Not one article I have read including the ones I have added and the ones already in the over 60 citations, calls Birkenfeld "Brad". From what I can garner from the Talk Page, the article was called "Brad Birkenfeld" as it was created by a person from the Government Accountability Project who knew him personally. She was using his nickname. This is hardly a valid reason for this page to be called Brad Birkenfeld, which is an informal name. 21:36, 18 January 2014 (UTC)William (The Bill) Blackstone (talk). 21:36, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

It should be Bradly. No article that I have read refers to him as Brad.Mackenzie0158 (talk) 04:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.