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Subsection exists under Chapman University. Brandman is affiliated with Chapman University but should have it's own page as it is a different entity all together. As of 2010, Brandman University has become a separate university, distinct from Chapman. It offers a unique adult learning environment. Wish to change redirect. Currently, Brandman University redirects to Chapman University. This is incorrect due to recent changes in structure. As stated above, Brandman University is a different university from Chapman University.

I am not affiliated with the college. I was asked by a member of the college administration to consider creating an accurate, neutral article for Brandman University due to the recent changes.

Third-party sources available: http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/news/2011/01/06/brandman-starts-ba-program-for.html http://chronicle.com/article/For-Profit-Institutions-Meet/64606/ http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/student-loan-default-rates-increase-0 http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/02/04/new_three_year_student_loan_default_information http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=98 http://www.luminafoundation.org/research/what_we_know_about_adult_learners.html http://www.csfa.net/web/2011/01/accelerate_your_way_to_a_bachelo.aspx http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/eval/tech/evidence-based-practices/finalreport.pdf http://www.militaryfriendlyschools.com/search/profile.aspx?id=262086 http://www.army-portal.com/benefits/gibill/911/washington.html http://vets.arizona.edu/ http://www.dlassoc.com/pages.aspx?p=65&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 http://www.publicceo.com/index.php/local-governments/151-local-governments-publicceo-exclusive/2704-commending-two-brandman-students-on-their-award


Brandman Fact Sheet: http://www.brandman.edu/facts/


Accredited by www.acswasc.org A member of www.cael.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jahoerbelt (talk • contribs) 16:13, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No objections here to a bold creation of the page. I've cautioned Jahoerbelt about the apparent conflict of interest he has, but it's still possible for him to write a well-referenced, neutral article.
To get to the redirect, click on the Article tab; when you get send to the Chapman University article, there will be a little note at the top saying "Redirected from Brandman University." Click on that link, and you'll get to the redirect page. —C.Fred (talk) 17:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There's text at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Brandman University that should probably be moved in for the article stub, although it needs some cleanup. Once the text is cleaned, it may take an admin to remove the redirect and move it to the new title, though. —C.Fred (talk) 17:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Making this article more neutral[edit]

I want to make it as neutral as possible. Any suggestions? Jahoerbelt (talk) 15:39, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


I deleted a lot of the language that was biased-sounding. I purposely did not delete the advert box because I would like someone else to review it for neutrality.

Jahoerbelt (talk) 16:05, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Article Reads Like a PR Piece[edit]

For the purposes of an encyclopedia, this article needs more neutral and referenced language.

KSRolph (talk) 21:07, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Request to reverse edit/add alumni[edit]

Hello. I represent the Brandman University Office of Public Affairs and would like to request an edit.

Specifically, I would like to undo an edit made at 23:38, 22 January 2021‎ to remove the names of three alumni. We consider the removal of alumni who received awards for public service, especially a National Teacher of the Year, (Chauncey Veatch, the 2002 awardee: https://ntoy.ccsso.org/past-national-teachers-of-year/) to be unwarranted. I respectfully request the following content to be restored in the article's Alumni section. 

   Chauncey Veatch – 2002 Teacher of the Year[24]
   Cindy Smith – Recipient of the 2011 PublicCEO Service to California Award[25]
   Janice Voshall – Recipient of the 2011 PublicCEO Service to California Award[25]

I would also like to request Footnote 25 (the citation for Ms. Smith's and Ms. Voshall's award), be updated to this link: https://www.publicceo.com/2011/03/commending-two-brandman-students-on-their-award/

We anticipate nominating additional alumni for inclusion. Please advise how you would like us to proceed in adherence to your COI policy.

Thank you.

Declined per WP:LPNAME. Ferkjl (talk) 19:11, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
More importantly, when an article like this includes a list of notable alumni, the expectation is that the named alumni are notable in their own right. Simply put, if they don't have their own article, they may not be listed in this one. —C.Fred (talk) 19:43, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The community has rejected the idea that independent notability is required for inclusion in an embedded list; both WP:LISTBIO and WP:N make this clear. With that said, the evidence presented thus far do not indicate that these specific people are sufficiently noteworthy - independent or in the context of this specific subject - to merit inclusion in this article in an embedded list. ElKevbo (talk) 21:50, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recommend change to UMass Global[edit]

Looks like the deal between UMass and Chapman University has been completed. I suggest that the article's title be changed to "UMass Global." --CollegeMeltdown (talk) 22:30, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Update Request - Name Change to UMass Global effective as of Sept. 1, 2021[edit]

Hello. I'm writing from UMass Global (formerly Brandman University). I wanted to request an update to this page since we officially adopted the name University of Massachusetts Global (UMass Global) as of Sept. 1, 2021. The press release from the University of Massachusetts system has more info. You may also be interested in additional information from our accreditor, the WASC Senior College and University Commission.

Our transition to UMass Global is distinct from other recent developments involving other universities. Please allow me to highlight what we consider to be a few of the key points:

1) UMass Global is a private, nonprofit university operating in affiliation with UMass. UMass Global's headquarters is in Irvine, CA. 2) This is not a merger nor a sale (we're informed by legal counsel that a nonprofit cannot be sold). We are not a member of the public UMass system. 3) UMass Global (formerly Brandman) is no longer a member of the Chapman University System. That said, this timeline from Chapman is helpful to understand the university's evolution from 1958, when the first Chapman College classes took place at Marine Corps Air Station El Toro, to the establishment of Chapman University College in 2001, and the initial use of Brandman University as our name in 2009.

I hope this information is helpful. Please contact me at <redacted> if you have any questions.

-Andrew Edwards UMass Global — Preceding unsigned comment added by EdwardsBU (talk • contribs) 18:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Closed this request to remove from the backlog as per the move request implemented below on the talk page. Signed, I Am Chaos (talk) 23:12, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
EdwardsBU please can you explain what changes you want. The recommended format is
  • Specific text to be added or removed: ADD TEXT HERE
  • Reason for the change: ADD TEXT HERE
  • References supporting change: ADD URL AT LEAST TSventon (talk) 22:44, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Move request[edit]

I'm writing again from the University of Massachusetts Global (formerly Brandman University). We'd like to request a move to reflect our new name - University of Massachusetts Global. The Brandman name is no longer in use.

Requested move 20 October 2021[edit]

Brandman University → University of Massachusetts Global – This is the new official name of the university. The Brandman University name is no longer in use as of Sept. 1, 2021. Source: https://www.umassglobal.edu/about-umassglobal/umassglobalfaqs — Preceding unsigned comment added by EdwardsBU (talk • contribs) 17:20, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I Am Chaos, thank you for moving the page. Do you intend to update the lead as recommended by WP:POSTMOVE? TSventon (talk) 09:09, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed updates from UMass Global[edit]

Hello. This is EdwardsBU from UMass Global again. We'd like to request a few changes for accuracy's sake. I hope it's OK to place all the requests in a single section. Please feel free to reach out to me with questions.

Proposal for Paragraph One:

  • Specific text to be added or removed:

University of Massachusetts Global (UMass Global), until September 2021 known as Brandman University, is a private nonprofit university with 25 physical campuses throughout California and Washington, and a virtual campus online. The university offers more than 90 degree, certificate, credential, and professional development programs for working adults. Brandman was a separate regionally-accredited university within the Chapman University System. UMass Global is the result of Brandman leaving the Chapman University System and forming a new affiliation with the University of Massachusetts in September 2021. UMass Global retained its regional accreditation from the WASC Senior College and University Commission. Gary Brahm is the appointed chancellor of the university.

  • Reason for the change:

These proposed changes would update the numbers of UMass Global's campuses and program offerings to current levels. The proposed edit to the language on accreditation is intended to clarify that the university still has regional accreditation.

  • References supporting change:

Campus locations: https://www.umassglobal.edu/about-umassglobal/campus Number of programs (home page): https://www.umassglobal.edu/ Accreditation: https://www.wscuc.org/institutions/umass-global/

Affiliation details (press release): https://www.umassglobal.edu/news-and-events/news/university-of-massachusetts-chapman-university-announce-transfer-of-brandman-university

 Done. I used this article, which was already cited on the page, in place of the press release. Heartmusic678 (talk) 15:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposals for Paragraph Two:

  • Specific text to be added or removed:

UMass Global’s institutional history begins in 1958. That was the year when faculty from then-Chapman College first delivered on-base classes at Marine Corps Air Station El Toro in Orange County, California. Chapman's expansion of educational services to additional military facilities resulted in its formation of a Division of Residence Education Centers to manage their operations. These centers evolved into the College of Lifelong Learning, which in 2001 became Chapman University College. Chapman University College was incorporated in 2008, and received the Brandman University name in 2009. The university adopted its current name, University of Massachusetts Global (UMass Global), in September 2021 after exiting the Chapman University System and beginning a new affiliation with the University of Massachusetts system. UMass Global still has a presence on military bases, with campuses at Naval Base Kitsap, Naval Air Station Lemoore, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Travis Air Force Base, and Naval Air Station Whidbey Island. Military Times rated the university, while the Brandman name was still in use, as being among the nation’s “Best for Vets” universities for 2021.

  • Reason for the change:

These proposals are intended to correct and clarify UMass Global's institutional history. For example, it would not be correct to say Brandman was established in 1958, as that name was not in use at the time. These proposals would also provide more current info related to a third-party assessment of the university's relationship with students who are veterans.

  • References supporting change:

Chapman University Timeline: https://www.chapman.edu/library/libraries-collections-and-archives/special-collections-and-archives/history-timeline.aspx Military Times Best for Vets ranking: https://colleges.militarytimes.com/school/H9E828AD61D2BBDFC0250906B43CF4EBE

Proposals for Paragraph Five:

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In September 2021, Brandman affiliated with UMass via a change of control agreement. The development followed UMass' announcement two years prior that it would launch an online affiliate. The arrangement calls for Chapman to receive $96 million from UMass Global, with disbursements to be made over a 10-year term. UMass Global has also agreed to buy its Irvine, California campus/headquarters for $37 million. There will be leadership and oversight overlap between the UMass Board of Regents and that of UMass Global.

  • Reason for the change:

These proposals are intended to correct details of the Brandman-to-UMass Global transition. The reaffiliation was not actually an acquisition. These proposals would also cite news sources with what I understand to be more accurate reporting on financial matters.

  • References supporting change:

California Commission on Teacher Credentialing, Feb. 2021 agenda (Please see the following sentence: “The structural change is not a merger nor acquisition by the University of Massachusetts, but rather a new affiliation.) https://www.ctc.ca.gov/docs/default-source/commission/agendas/2021-02/2021-02-3e.pdf?sfvrsn=9a9f2bb1_4

Phil on EdTech; Boston Globe (financial terms): https://philonedtech.com/brandman-university-completes-transition-as-umass-global/ https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/09/02/metro/umass-eyes-bigger-online-education-footprint-with-new-brand/ (Please see this notable section from Phil on Ed Tech: "While this transaction is not technically an acquisition, Brandman University is separating from its parent Chapman University and there is no residual OPM contract. Based on an interview with Don Kilburn, CEO of UMass Online, part of the deal to create UMass Global is that the institution will pay Chapman University $96 million over a 10-year period, with most of that funded in years 6 – 10. In addition, UMass Global will purchase the Irvine, California headquarters location for $37 million."

This reporting is consistent with information conveyed by the Boston Globe: "The University of Massachusetts system itself will not pay Chapman University to complete the acquisition, but the independent, nonprofit UMass Global affiliate will pay Chapman University a total of $96 million over the next 10 years, almost all of which will begin to flow in five years, according to a spokesperson. Brandman University brings to UMass Global annual operating revenue of about $130 million annually, plus about $50 million in cash."

 Done. I did not include the blog source as a citation, because they are not always considered reliable sources. Thanks, Heartmusic678 (talk) 12:43, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposals for Sidebar

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University of Massachusetts Global (Note: Please see homepage for current logo) Former Names: Brandman University, Chapman University College (Source: Chapman Timeline) Established: Chapman University College incorporated 2008; renamed as Brandman University in 2009; left Chapman University System and renamed University of Massachusetts Global in 2021 Chancellor: Gary Brahm Provost: Charles A. Bullock Academic Staff: (Full- and part-time): 912 Support Staff: (Full- and part-time): 501 Source: IPEDS Fall 2020 data: https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/datacenter/institutionprofile.aspx?unitId=262086 Students: About 23,000 annually (including School of Extended Education) Undergraduates: 9,190 Graduates: 6,345 Source: IPEDS Unduplicated 12-month headcount, 2019-20 Location: Irvine, California, United States Campuses: 25 physical sites in California and Washington State, plus online campus Colors: UMass Blue (PMS 300C), UMass Red (PMS 201C) Website: www.umassglobal.edu

  • Reason for the change:

The proposals are intended to provide updated numbers and info on school colors.

  • References supporting change:

For info on former names, please see the Chapman University Timeline: https://www.chapman.edu/library/libraries-collections-and-archives/special-collections-and-archives/history-timeline.aspx

For info on staffing and numbers of graduate and undergraduate students, please see IPEDS data: https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/datacenter/institutionprofile.aspx?unitId=262086&goToReportId=6

For info on total student enrollment, including Extended Education students, please see UMass Global's current press release boilerplate: https://www.umassglobal.edu/news-and-events/news/umass-global-celebrates-first-graduate-to-earn-degree-via-aaa-accelerate-partnership

 Done. Heartmusic678 (talk) 15:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Leadership Update Request[edit]

Hello, this is Andrew Edwards again from the Public Affairs Office at UMass Global (I previously requested edits as EdwardsBU).

I'd like to let you know that the information on our chancellor and provost here is no longer current. Thank you for considering these suggested updates.

(For the end of Paragraph 1) David W. Andrews is the appointed chancellor of the university.

Link to Andrews' wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_W._Andrews&_welcomesurveytoken=qg14iujnhr3s6po80m5erjic6h35dd66&source=welcomesurvey-originalcontext

Source: https://www.umassglobal.edu/news-and-events/news/umass-global-board-of-regents-appoints-new-chancellor-to-lead-the-drive-for-coast-to-coast-growth

For the sidebar: Chancellor David W. Andrews Provost: Laurie G. Dodge (please use this information to replace the reference to Charles Bullock.)

Source: https://www.umassglobal.edu/news-and-events/news/university-of-massachusetts-global-elevates-dr-laurie-dodge-to-provost

FYI: We are also included in the 2022 edition of the Best for Vets rankings, in case you can also update Paragraph 4:

Military Times ranked the university as one of the nation’s “Best for Vets” for 2022. Sources: https://www.umassglobal.edu/news-and-events/news/umass-global-earns-spot-on-military-times-best-for-vets-colleges-rankings

https://colleges.militarytimes.com/2022/company/university-of-massachusetts-global

Finally, I'd like to ask if the disclaimers at the top of the article can be removed. I did attempt to edit the page myself before learning of the conflict of interest policy. AFAIK, all updates I have requested since then have followed Wikipedia's protocols. I'm not aware of any current contributions to the article having been made by someone with a close connection to UMass Global.

Thank you, Andrew Edwards UMass Global

AEdwardsUMassGlobal (talk) 18:44, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done (Although I removed the mention of the chancellor in the lede instead of updating it; it doesn't seem necessary there.) ElKevbo (talk) 00:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

COI and POV banners removed[edit]

After reading through the article today, I find myself feeling that the tone of the article feels a little more peacock-y than we might like. However, I don't feel like the overall neutrality of the article is tainted, so I have removed the POV tag. If there's an issue that isn't getting full treatment, feel free to mention it here.

Likewise, since I have no connection to UMass Global, this independent editor feels the text is sufficiently neutral, and I have removed the COI tag. —C.Fred (talk) 00:57, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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