Talk:Bryan Fury

Comparisons to Roy Batty

I ask: Why are the comparisons to Roy Batty of Blade Runner deleted? The basis is obvious: both are very physically fit androids with short, cropped, white hair and posses immense physical strength. Surely this is not a common motif for fictional characters.

Unless you can provide a credible reference for it, that sort of information counts as original research, which is against Wikipedia's policy. The problem is, when you start throwing around comparisons, you can make them to just about anybody or anything. King Zeal 07:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Surely the fact that he is referenced to as a replicant on the Tekken 5 website (http://tekken5.namco.com/) and in the Tekken 5 booklet that comes with the game is enough of an allusion to Blade Runner? The first line of Bryan's official bio reads "Bryan Fury, a replicant created by Dr. Abel,". Correct me if I'm wrong but the term replicant was coined by Blade Runner and is pretty much synonymous with the film. Perhaps Bryan's similar appearance and backstory can be dismissed as personal opinion, but the links to Blade Runner are clearly meant to be recognised and made note of. Kymmeth

No, that's not enough. While it could be speculated that this is where their idea came from, it could easily have been a coincidence. It's like Raven. Almost everyone seems to think that Namco based the character of Raven on Blade. However, according to Namco themselves, that's not the case. Besides, isn't Bryan's entire backstory the basic scientific stereotype for every mad scientist/cyborg cliché? King Zeal 10:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

It could easily have been a coincidence? It could just as easily have been intentional, and whether intentional or not, Bryan Fury and Roy Batty share a numerous amount of similarities. Why, for example, is speculation about Lei's Tekken 5 ending being an homage to Jackie Chan movies allowed to slide by but yet you refuse to accept the similarities between Bryan and Roy? What makes that piece of trivia more sufficient than the allusions to Roy Batty that as far as I can see, are often picked up on? Are you going to resolve this by removing every single piece of Tekken trivia that lacks a confirmed statement from Namco? It baffles me why you are so against letting these links remain on this page.

Simple. I can't be everywhere at once, and I can't read every article. I caught the Bryan Fury edits because I happened to check my watchlist when the edits were made. That's all. If I'd noticed that on the Lei page, I would've changed it long ago. Thank you for calling attention to it. King Zeal 00:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

It would be a great help if you could explain to me why you think Namco using the term coined by Blade Runner is dismissible information. (Perhaps without being rude about it; the comment you clearly left for me on your user page strikes me as incredibly rude - especially since the person you attacked had to endure your spite rather than you correctly aiming it toward me)Kymmeth

The person I attacked? How narrow-minded. You are conveniently ignoring (whether by choice or error, I don't know), the fact that the person on my Talk page threw slanderous remarks my way first. However, frankly, it doesn't matter. I'm not going to get into "he started it" argument. The fact remains that I found his logic inaccurate, and I provided a counterargument. Now, I will do the same here. The fact that Namco used the term "replicant" is not sufficient reason to start slinging accusations that the character of Bryan Fury is a parallel of Roy Batty. Maybe he is, but I don't see how one can make that assumption without speculating and performing original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia.

However, I propose a compromise. How about we add the following statement to the opening of the page:

"Bryan is a cyborg, (referred to as a 'replicant' on Tekken's official homepage <reference footnote goes here>) though he was once a man."

This way, we keep the connection to Blade Runner, but we don't provide a bunch of speculation that can't be verified. If anyone is curious as to what a "replicant" is, they can easily follow the link and come to their own conclusions. Sound fair? King Zeal 00:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Roy Batty Pt. 2

Someone new has been adding their theories as to why Bryan is based off of the character Roy Batty from Blade Runner. Again, there's no evidence to support it. I've simply added an "unsourced" tag for now, but if nothing is added soon, I propose that it be removed. King Zeal 22:38, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

"Bryan is a cyborg (referred to as a replicant on the official Tekken site)" If it is sourced from an official website, why is the sentence structured in such a bizarre way? Why not just have "Bryan is a replicant" and then a link to the cited source? I'm sorry if it seems like I am trying to kick start an argument that seems to have already happened but I am speaking as a newcomer here and I don't know how to rewrite the sentence as described myself, because I'm not sure how the html works just yet. It also seems to be rather vehemently defended here on the discussion board. I think it would be a good idea to change this sentence because as is it is the wording feels awkward. Thank you for your time. ~Holden —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.139.22 (talk) 20:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Because the term "replicant", for all we know, could mean something completely different in the Tekken universe than it does in the Blade Runner world. Much the way that being a mutant in Futurama is not the same as being a mutant in the Marvel Universe. King Zeal 19:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I understand that. So just don't link to the article on blade runner and there we have it. If someone doesn't know what is meant by a 'replicant' they can do their own search on it and come to their own conclusion, without this article giving an inaccurate impression about the particular use of the word 'replicant'. I don't see the basis of the word being linked to that particular article anyway to be honest. It's semantics, at the end of the day, I suppose. ~ Holden 83.104.139.22 00:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You have to admit though, his appearance is very Batty-like: white hair, eye-scar and all...

                                                                           Gr8moldy (talk) 20:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, change the line

hey change that one line that says that Bryan is a kickboxer like Bruce Irvin. You can't get dumber than that Bruce Irvin knows Muay Thai not kickbox and don't tell me theyre the same theyre not

Yeah, I agree. Muay Thai (Bruce Irvin's fighting style) and Kickboxing (Bryan Fury's fighting style) are not the same. The article just states that some of Bryan's moves are similar to Bruce's moves now. KristiRenee 17:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Leon from DoA

I was playing DoA2:Ultimate recently, and was using Leon's 4th costume. To me, in the costume, with Leon's hair, and to a lesser extent, body, he very much resembeled Brian. ANy thoughts on this? 216.250.5.64 21:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Just stop right there. Firstly, the Wikipedia is NOT a forum. Secondly, this is all origianl research. And finally, the fact that they appear slightly alike is trivial. Michael Mad 17:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Bruce and Bryan know together in some way?

In Tekken Tag Tournament, Bruce and Bryan seem to have a special opening together, but have had no other known relation. Does anybody think Bryan and Bruce could have had any other past relations together? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.140.130.199 (talk) 19:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

This page isn't for speculating. A special opening doesn't necessarily mean that they knew each other at all. King Zeal 20:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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Deletion request

So I see no reason to delete this page and all other pages! Because pages like Bryan Fury's offer more information about a character than the games etc. And since Bryan Fury has a lot of content, you would either have to put all the content on the main page, which is also where all the information about some characters is, move or even shorten it very much, so that some information about this character remains. In addition, extra pages like this one are useful so that the main pages etc. are not overloaded with a lot of text. Furthermore, this page has been around since July 2005, so why should this page and all other pages be deleted now at once? Therefore I am against the deletion of this page and all other pages! -- TheKerberos01 (talk) 20:39, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

In response to your argument, it's about quality over quantity. Simply having a lot of content doesn't matter if that content is not encyclopedic. See also WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia, not a repository of fan knowledge - FANDOM is over there, and surely has a huge article about each character. You may want to participate there if you are more interested in simply adding as much info as possible.

Now, AfD is commonly used even if the article should probably not be totally deleted. It simply is easier to point to as a "final verdict" than a merge discussion, even if the ultimate result is merge. There is no specific rule about not using AfD for merging non-notable articles - it just means the article can't continue to exist as-is. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:06, 13 April 2023 (UTC)