Talk:Charlie Brown

Cleanup

• Well, the article wasn't in as nearly bad shape as it was a few weeks ago, but the reason why I most recently removed this section is not only because of mostly primary sources (or simple statements disguised as sources) but also because it just wasn't encyclopedic. Now, I am a HUGE Peanuts fan and I do agree with what was being said, but Wikipedia is not the place for an article written that way; try the Peanuts wiki instead. Erpert ^{Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it?} 06:42, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

  Note, I was mainly just here to fix this editor's mass-change. See this thread for more details and a request for input/assistance.
  I glanced through some of the other changes since that month, as a mass-diff-change, and replaced the Names section because it seemed to have refs. I don't object to your re-removal (though if there are any decent sentences within the section that could be saved, that would be good :) . HTH. —Quiddity (talk) 18:01, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

I'll need to find a reference for this. Charles Schultz once said that Charlie Brown was not bald. He had blond hair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.138.186.90 (talk) 02:37, 2 March 2014 (UTC) Reference 5 in the main article quotes Charles Schultz on the topic. He said that Charlie Brown was what his parents called a "tow-head". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.138.186.90 (talk) 02:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Top Importance?

There's a discussion on which comic-related articles should be listed as "Top Importance" on the importance scale, and I feel this article should not be included. If any user disagrees or wishes to contribute, please do so there. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:44, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Not included based on what? I couldn't disagree with you more. Galizur (talk) 04:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletions

Why was a massive amount of the existing material for this entry removed? It appears to have been done by a single editor who no longer exists. Considering this sheer cultural impact of Charlie Brown this wiki entry needs some serious work. Galizur (talk) 04:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Interactions?

I like all of the interaction subtitles but I would say put all of that information into one larger chuck. Paraphrase some things and maybe remove some pieces of information that seems pointless. I personally loved Charlie as a child (even though I still am sort of a child) I honestly think it was a very factual read, it is just too long of an article and being a person that doesn't like to read, this was tough.

This is for my English class in College. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davissha001 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Problems with editing

Two editors, [Brother734u2] and [MarshMiller] the Killer have each made a damage to the article. Something should be done.68.100.116.118 (talk) 23:22, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Removing overlinking

Regarding my edit here [1], I believe the reversal as non-constructive was a mistake. For easier revision, I've redone the work in four separate edits:

• remove extraneous white space. Perhaps the judgement of non-constructive came from the differences page, which highlights what might look like a non-sensical addition.

WP:OVERLINK lists among things that should not be linked: "Everyday words understood by most readers in context" and "names of major geographic features and locations".

• words that are common, such that referring to the linked article sheds no light at all on its meaning within this article: chocolate, cigars, year, autumn, France, love.

• words which I'll grant might benefit from a link, though I'd like to see a counter-argument made for the words individually: protagonist, pumpkin, psychiatry, "the law".

• links in references: "daily newspaper" and "Sunday". There are two references to Schulz (2006) The Complete Peanuts 1961-1962. I'm guessing the links are meant to indicate that within the source, you should look for, respectively, the daily strips or the Sunday strips. I don't think links to the Wikipedia articles accomplishes that.

Willondon (talk) 03:59, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Source of the name

Doing a quick scan of the article, I find no mention of where Schulz got the name Charlie Brown, which was the name of one of his co-workers at Art Instruction. This is particularly odd, because in the "Inspiration" section we list the sources for the names of several other characters! (Which seems irrelevant to this particular article; the Peanuts article, perhaps, but not the CB-specific one.) There are book sources a-plenty for this, but if you want an online one, there's this. I'm not going to add it myself as I have conflicts of interest with regards to Peanuts. I do have access to non-free images of the real Charlie Brown, but am not sure that that would qualify under our guidelines for use of non-free images; while we allow non-free images of deceased persons for which no free images can be found, it's only for articles about that person, and this article is about a different Charlie Brown. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:46, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

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Error in the first use of name.

The article currently says His name was first used on May 30, 1948, in an early Schulz comic strip called Lil’ Folks, in which one boy has buried another in a sandbox and then denies that he has seen the other boy ("Charlie Brown") when asked. This is confusing two different panels from Li'l Folks. Schulz's first use of Charlie Brown is indeed May 30, 1948, but it's a panel of a boy introducing himself to a dog. The one with the boy that has been buried did not appear until July 24, 1949, and was the fourth and final use of the "Charlie Brown" name in Li'l Folks. I will not be changing this myself due to my Peanuts conflict of interest. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:45, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

References

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"Disney Animated Characters"

Someone just added this page (and Snoopy) to categories for 20th Century Studios animated characters and Disney animated characters. Neither is accurate. They were animated by Blue Sky, but at a time when that studio was indeed its own studio. They do not hold rights to do further Peanuts animation. If one wants to argue that everything that Blue Sky did is now somehow Disney, well I certainly disagree, but even if that's what we want to say it's best handled by making Blue Sky characters and subcategory of Disney characters. --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:30, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

@NatGertler: I agree, and have undone both edits. –FlyingAce^✈hello 04:11, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Jumper

The term "jumper" was just reinserted as the name of a piece of clothing. However, while that's a UK term for what Americans call a "sweater". Given that this article is about an American-created American character, American English would be more appropriate. And then there's the fact that the item of clothing that's being referred to is actually a shirt...-- Nat Gertler (talk) 04:19, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Fixed... though now that I think about it, I vaguely recall seeing Charlie Brown in a red (rather than yellow) shirt occasionally. Perhaps I should leave it at "shirt" and remove the color? –FlyingAce^✈hello 04:08, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Red was the standard before the switch to yellow. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 05:18, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Good point. I removed the color and left "shirt" in. –FlyingAce^✈hello 11:38, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Charlie Brown's aging

Currently, the article says Charlie Brown was explicitly identified as being four years old; he would age very slowly over the next several years, being old enough to attend elementary school by the 1960s. However, while it cites this 1950 strip as showing CB was 4, it was less than a month later that we see Charlie Brown explicitly going to school. The next year, he was "too young to go to school", but within two months after that, [https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1951/11/15 he's in school. The truth is, it's simply inconsistent, and to assume linear forward aging is inappropriate. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 21:13, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

What characters call Charlie Brown

@Sweenytoddao: You just added a statement that all of the characters (including specifically Snoopy) call the character Charlie Brown, except for Peppermint Patty and Marcie, who call him Chuck. While it is true he is never called just "Charlie", the names that others have for him are more diverse that you suggest. Snoopy most commonly calls him "the round-headed kid", Sally "big brother", and while Marcie does at time call him "Chuck", her signature term is "Charles". Peggy Jean calls him "Brownie Charles". I suggest you adjust ore remove this statement. (Really, it'd make for a section in itself.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 04:57, 14 February 2024 (UTC)