Talk:Chris Rock

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controversy[edit]

The cited source has no mention of anything being "controversial". Calling it a controversy is OR. Nor does it state that chris rock had paid for an illegal wiretapping, just that he was the beneficiary of the actions of someone who (amongst other things) performed an illegal wire tapping. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.141.15.253 (talk) 21:36, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Record[edit]

Chris Rock breaks UK comedy gig record —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.3.161 (talk) 09:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Schooling[edit]

The article says that he went to green tickle orange high school, which is located in Manhattan, and the third paragraph says that he went to a high school in Bensonhurst, which is in Brooklyn. Where did he actually go to high school? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.208.34 (talkcontribs) 12:16, 3 October 2005

Other than some apparent confusion in web biographies with the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of Brooklyn, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that Chris Rock attended Stuyvesant High School. Some of these bios refer to a "Bedford-Stuyvesant High School", but there isn't any such school. There is a good chance that Rock attended Boys' High School or its successor Boys and Girls High School, which is located in Bed-Stuy. I tried several times to confirm the Stuyvesant connection, but to no avail. I'm going to remove the references, but if someone can cite a reasonbly authoritative source I'd love to be proved wrong. RossPatterson 17:08, 19 February 2050 (UTC)

Couldn't find the Stuyvesant High School reference anywhere else, and checked the Stuyvesant High School site, where he is not listed as an alumnus. On page 46 of his autobiography, "Rock This," Rock writes, "I got bused from Bed-Stuy to a white school in a poor white neighborhood: Gerretson Beach, Brooklyn. It was even worse than where I lived." Stuyvesant is in the Wall Street district of Manhattan. A fan site (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=14712) links to a 2001 New Republic article discussing Rock's unpleasant experiences at high school—the New Republic uses the spelling "Gerretsen" Beach. Zoidbergmd (talk) 16:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

IMDB says he was born in 1965, but here it says 1967. Which is right? -- 65.93.81.198 07:09, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

According to the book 'Chris Rock: Comedian and Actor' by Anne Todd, Rock attended community college after getting his GED. His mother also talks about it on the video short "Who Is Chris Rock?" (1989). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cstu (talkcontribs) 01:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk 2: Chris Rock[edit]

Look! Chris Rock does go to high school since the 80's he was born in 1969!!! because on the Everybody Hates Chris Summary saids that Chris Rock turns 13 years old on 1982 and that's truth because that never lies so that makes it that he was born in February 7, 1969 do you get it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.253.198 (talkcontribs) 21:06, 13 October 2005

Stuy[edit]

I'm pretty sure he didn't go to stuy... thats where i go now, and i'd have heard about him going here if he did.Ironearth 23:09, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Fired?[edit]

Where is the evidence that Rock was fired from SNL for drug use?

He wasn't; he left of his own accord to join In Living Color before the show was abruptly canceled that season. BabuBhatt 05:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Controversy[edit]

Why is there a controversy section here? The stuff from Never Scared never drew any fire, please provide a source for that because comedians say a lot of outlandish things. The Academy Awards thing doesn't seem like much controversy, nor does his parody of Kanye West seem like controversy. I'm considering removing the whole section since it's rather pointless.

Inner City Blues 23:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Who had mostly forgotten the remark[edit]

How does the author know what the telivision audience forgot with regard to Sean Penn/Chris Rocks remarks at the 77th Oscars. Indeed how does the author know that Rock was one of the 'Preeminent' comic minds of his generation (thats definately arguable but here it is presented as a given).

This is one more example of why Wikipedia really wont ever be a serious academic tool.......Adam777 22:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

I disagree, wikipedia is serious that is all. Volt M 22:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I changed the sentence and removed the phrase "to the surprise of a television audience that had mostly forgotten the remark" - that is just conjecture, the author has no way of knowing if the TV audience was surprised or indeed what they had or had not forgotten. Adam777 15:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Abortion[edit]

The abortion thing seems pretty trivial and POV, especially considering there's no citation. I'm taking it out.

Birth date?[edit]

I have a book written and autographed by Chris Rock....Rock This! He claims to have been born on February 5, 1966 a few times in the book. Few people forget the year in which they are born. Quit saying it's 1965. I'll even scan one of the pages claiming this if i have to.please do.-wikirockroll

Do we have a clear source for this information? 1965 and 1966 seem to be distributed evenly across the internet. Hotwine8 01:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
The 1965 date might stem from the fact that on Never Scared, which was recorded in March 2004 -- ie. after his birthday -- he starts off his "Rap Standup" segment by stating "now I'm 39, right". That would make his date of birth 1965. But yeah, there are other equally reputable sources claiming different things... IMDB says 1965, AOL's biography says 1966, Allmusic says 196? ... -/- Warren 02:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I have the book... and it does in fact claim he was born in 1966 once, but then there's the issues with him saying otherwise, as well. I was going to propose we go with 1965, seeing as he actually said he was 39 in March of 2004, but now I'm hearing his spoken word contradict this. Perhaps he wants to create some confusion?Bryanedp9 07:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Pic[edit]

Isn't anyone gonna take a picture of this guy? If not, i'm afraid we'd have to use the so-called "fair-use" "policy"Walter Humala - Emperor of West Wikipedia Crystal Clear app korganizer.png|wanna Talk? 05:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

 Done -- It's a good portrait-picture. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:09, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Birth revisited[edit]

Rock was on the Oprah Winfrey show on February 28, 2007. He said he was 42 years old. MrBlondNYC 08:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Saw that two 65.95.140.34 05:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
he couldve been roundin up since his biirth day was so close to the date of the tour —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.150.73.212 (talk) 06:08, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Children[edit]

I just saw Chris Rock on the Jonathan Ross show and he said that he has two daughters, aged 5 and 3. Where did 8 come from?! (January 11 2008)

I've just read somewhere that his wife is pregnant with their 3rd baby, it's going to be a boy. Apparently they are going to call him "Haardaza" after some well known black phrase —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smokealot (talkcontribs) 16:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Questionable passage in Comedic style section[edit]

A tagged passage in the Comedic style section reads:

"Rock is uncomfortable with the idea of being seen as a larger than life figure in standup comedy as opposed to some of his heroes like Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy or Richard Pryor; when pressed for a statement during an interview with Playboy, he hesitated and finally responded: "I talked about race differently. I'll go that far".

What does this mean? When pressed for a statement? A statement regarding what? Shouldn't the passage indicate what the question was that he was responding to? "Statement", by itself, doesn't mean anything. Without the question, the answer he gives about talking about race differently is completely decontextualized, and makes no sense. And what does his discomfort with being seen as larger-than-life have to do with his comedic style? Nightscream 02:33, 11 February 2008

Excellent point; I tried to clarify what the original author appears to have meant -- that becoming famous obliged Rock to fill an "ethnic spokesperson" role with which he was uncomfortable; it's a point I've heard Rock discuss in interviews, and one I've heard fellow standup David Chappelle make as well. Zoidbergmd (talk) 00:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, but the passage needs to be clarified so that the contextual relevance of the answer he gave to the point you explained above is clear. No offense, but as it stands now, the passage makes little sense. In addition, you have to cite the exact source. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 04:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Done. My aim had been to retain the author's original language, but his point did seem to dart around and then dropped down the rabbit hole. I did, however, source the original Playboy quote; it came from an interview in the September, 1999 issue—conducted by David Rensin, his co-author on the memoir. Zoidbergmd (talk) 10:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Verification[edit]

Added verification/citations for the "Recurring SNL Characters" and "Celebrity Impersonations" sections; all entries are verifiable through the (fairly complete) site "Saturday Night Live Transcripts" (http://snltranscripts.jt.org/). Zoidbergmd (talk) 17:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for responding to the citation tags. However, there are a few problems. The citation given for the recurring characters does not establish that Nat X was a recurring character. It merely is a transcript from one episode in which Nat appeared, which does not indicate his recurring status. Second, no citations are given for the others. Instead, you wrote in the citation, "The rest of the characters from the "Recurring Characters" section may be found on the site as well". This is not an acceptable citation. All of the individual characters asserted in that section need to be sourced. If they're found elsewhere on that site, then the urls have to be given, and the webpages must establish their recurring status as well. Lastly, the source you provided for the Celebrity impersonations section is simply a reiteration of the source you provided for the Recurring section, and makes no mention of Idi Amin, or any of the Impersonations, giving only the same explanation about them being supported elsewhere on the site, to which I reiterate the same answer. Nightscream (talk) 05:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
"Celebrity Impressions" Sourced and verified every impression; no record of a "Mike Tyson"—on the other hand, the writer had left out "Nipsey Russell" and 2 Live Crew's "Luther Campbell." Zoidbergmd (talk) 09:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
"Recurring Characters" Sourced and verified each of Rock's character. Whew. Zoidbergmd (talk) 10:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Dude. AWESOME work! Well done! Nightscream (talk) 15:29, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Sentence fragment in Live Earth section[edit]

The Live Earth section currently reads, "At the London Live Earth concert on July 7, 2007, which was broadcast live on the BBC. Before introducing the Red Hot Chili Peppers Rock called the crowd 'motherfuckers.'"

The period after "BBC" should be changed to a comma, and the "B" in "before" changed to lower case. I'd do it but I'm unable to edit the page.Chrysanthememe (talk) 11:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Strange statement on Kill the Messenger[edit]

At about 00:49:49 of his new special Kill The Messenger, Rock says that, in 1989, he worked washing dishes on a Red Lobster. He adds that he wasnt working his way to college nor to telling jokes. All right. The problem is that he appeared in Beverly Hills Cop II in 1987, and Get You Sucka in 1988. He was also, since 1986, doing stand-ups on Catch a Rising Star. Well, I guess that means he sort of "manipulated the truth" regarding his status in 1989 so as to appear to be some kind of working class hero. I feel that part was also important for him to counterpart the impression he left early on the show of being rich - the house that cost millions. Anyway, the main idea is that he wasn't a shrimp scrapper with no plans for future (and I quote him: "That was my life, 1989"). He was clearly aiming at a show business career. What do you think about that? Should it be included on the article? (TSA from Brazil - 11/06/2008 - sorry for any bad English)

Anecdotes that stand-up comedians relate in their routines should not be taken as literal accounts of their lives, as they tend to mix truth, hyperbole, and humor in order to entertain an audience. If he said this in an interview, though, that would be different. Nightscream (talk) 15:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I dont know man, if he just wanted to tell a joke, he could have thrown another year, say, 1986, before he appeared in an hbo comedy special. He was 21 at that time and had probably dropped out of school already. There was nothing funny about the date itself, 1989. But I guess your explanation is good enough. (TSA from Brazil - 11/06/2008 - sorry for any bad English)

Picture[edit]

The page is protected so I can't change the picture to a better-quality more recent picture. Please change the picture to this picture:w:File:ChrisRock.jpg. Thanks! Realmgic (talk) 13:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Rock is writing a book: [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.70.94.71 (talk) 22:57, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

We need more quality pictures wikipedia than on web site —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.142.54.66 (talk) 06:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

 Done -- Now there are two. TNKS, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:17, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

20% white[edit]

i am wondering how can a person be 20% white? that means somewhere along the line one of his parents or ancestors is either 40% white or 80% white. i don't know if its mathematically possible.

It is possible, due to the number of generations that whites and blacks have lived in the US, and have bred with each other. He must have had white ancestors in more than one part of his ancestry. A great-grandparent would be 12 1/2%, a g-g-gp 6 1/4%, a g-g-g-g-gp 1 9/16%. A combination of those three would be, to the nearest degree, 20%. Best name (talk) 00:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

It is requested that an edit be made to this semi-protected article[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} Please change "During the 2007 season he was seen nearly every game on the video screen leading the crowd in a chant of "Let's Go Mets."" to the following: "During the 2007 season he was seen at nearly every game on the video screen leading the crowd in a chant of "Let's Go Mets.""—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldirtysteve (talkcontribs)

 DoneSpaceFlight89 03:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Actually, that entire passage is unsourced, and appears to be OR. I removed it. Nightscream (talk) 01:13, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

"S" in muic[edit]

Also, in the passage "Rock's fifth HBO special, Kill the Messenger, premiered on September 27, 2008, and won him another Emmy for outstanding writing for a variety or muic program.[22]" you're missing the s in "music". Not that big of a deal, but I thought I'd bring it to your attention —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.28.139.165 (talk) 02:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

JULIUS DEAD?[edit]

Wow.I really can't believe he is dead.I've looked at this article like 100 times and i just skim it.I wonder how they will show that on the TV show if they do .--Wikirockroll (talk) 01:08, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Udeme ?[edit]

I can't find any mention of an Udeme people of Cameroon on the internet. The link provided for African American Lives 2 doesn't mention the Udeme. My DNA says I'm descended from the Hdi of northern Cameroon, so I was interested. There are a lot of small ethnic groups in Cameroon, but the Udeme seems not to be correct, because I can't find mention of them anywhere. Barney Hill (talk) 17:13, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Wiretapping[edit]

According to the New York Times, Chris Rock paid private investigator Anthony Pellicano to perform an illegal wiretapping.[1]

I've removed this to talk. It's a trivial mention with no context whatsoever. Not enough for a biography. Viriditas (talk) 09:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Style[edit]

Rock has said that he was influenced by the performing style of his paternal grandfather, Allen Rock, a preacher.

We should have a bit more on this in the article. Watching his live shows, that's the first thing that comes to mind. He's preaching to the audience, and the influence is very obvious. Viriditas (talk) 09:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


Influences[edit]

Wasn't Chris Rock influenced by Bill Hicks? 38.118.23.100 (talk) 19:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Real Name[edit]

Is Chris Rock his real name, because its a wierd name. [unsigned, ages ago.]

No, it is his nickname, for Christopher. Read the article now. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:18, 10 December 2014 (UTC) --  Done

Incomplete Filmography[edit]

Where is Rush Hour (1,2,3)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.57.166.200 (talk) 02:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

That's Chris Tucker idiot. Anyway, you forgot something. He had a minor role in Everybody hates Chris as Mr. Abbott.66.108.210.86 (talk) 00:16, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 February 2012[edit]

Add that Chris Rock influenced Aziz Ansari under his picture on the right of the page. Reference <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASe0r7TmeW4&feature=g-vrec&context=G21773feRVAAAAAAAAAg> (TIME Magazine Interview with Aziz)

Westnilewonder (talk) 02:34, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: That information would go on the Aziz Ansari article not this one (also I don't see what image you're referring to on either article). You'd also need a better source than YouTube, I think. — Bility (talk) 17:04, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Phrasing[edit]

I understand the need to edit-protect, I really do: I grew up in the (still!) racially polarized southeastern US, believe me, I know. And Chris Rock, like many of our other best comic minds, says in-your-face stuff to make people think. This will often enrage the simple-minded, who don't like a mental challenge, and won't be forced to think about anything except the weather, the ballgame, and what's for dinner. But can WP really continue to include "...with whom he managed to hang out with" and "He was voted as the greatest..." anything. Even the teen magazines are better than that. Someone is going to have to spend some time with this article at some point, and my guess is that very few admins have that kind of time, or it would not be in the shape it's in. Just a thought. 69.171.187.15 (talk) 22:47, 16 February 2012 (UTC) Well, that and because Chris Rock is a wussy little prima-donna who'd start playing a whole deck of race cards if anyone actually dated to criticize him on here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.53.149.227 (talk) 00:48, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

"N word" vs "nigger"[edit]

It doesn't fit Wikipedia's standards to use the euphemism "n word" instead of "nigger". Yet it's still in the second paragraph of the subhead 'Standup success'. Even the source which the information is attributed to used "nigger". Someone should change that. --KRBM (talk) 22:32, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, I came here to make the same request. Wikipedia is not censored. 50.184.101.91 (talk) 00:07, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Rockypedia (talk) 21:09, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hump de Bump[edit]

So I was reading the Red Hot Chili Pepper's song "Hump de Bump"'s article and it said Chris Rock was in the music video BUT he said he'd only be in the video if RHCP were the only white people in the video. This can be seen as racism right? and should be added his article, the citations would be pretty easy to find so should I add it? --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit requests on January 31, 2013[edit]

All edit requests are for the Television section:
1. The 2003 MTV Video Music Awards was not an HBO Special, it should say Host in the Notes section instead.
2. For 1997, 1999 and 2003, they are called the Video Music Awards, not the Music Video Awards.
3. He was in two episodes (not one) of Louie: "New Jersey/Airport" in 2011 and "Late Show Part 2" in 2012.
4. The link to Louie should be to "Louie (TV Series)", not to the disambiguation page.

---  Done ---

Genre[edit]

Under the genre section in the sidebar the first one listed is "black humor". Being fairly familiar with his material, I think the editor responsible may have misunderstood what that term means. Should this be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedslater (talkcontribs) 07:02, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

The term "Black humor" is still there and I think it is fine. If an editor or reader clicks on "Black humor" he or she will see there is an unfortunate double-meaning: either 'dark humor' or "humor that makes light of subject matter usually considered [off limits]." Clearly, in today's political landscape, Chris Rock is strongly in that later category. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:25, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

New NEWS today, for future editing[edit]

Chris Rock makes a lot of sense and will be noted!

Headline-1: Chris Rock tells white people to own the actions of their ancestors

QUOTE: "Chris Rock explained in a lengthy interview Sunday that he believes part of healing racial relations in America is by white people “owning” the actions of their ancestors. The black comedian told New York magazine’s Frank Rich that racial progress in America is “nonsense” and that the only thing that’s changed is white people aren’t as crazy as they used to be. “When we talk about race relations in America or racial progress, it’s all nonsense,” Mr. Rock said. “There are no race relations. White people were crazy. Now they’re not as crazy. To say that black people have made progress would be to say they deserve what happened to them before." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:38, 7 December 2014 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing. The 4-minute video is great. At the end, I believe he uses the term "Black humor".



Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2016[edit]

Can somebody add the 88th Academy Awards to the filmography section on television? The Oscars are today and it's still not there while most hosts have the ceremonies in which they hosted.172.4.52.98 (talk) 09:02, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Someone added this. RudolfRed (talk) 20:59, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

oscars controversy[edit]

[2][3] [4] shouldn't these be mentioned in the AA section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.221.38.217 (talk) 22:54, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2016[edit]

In the Chris_Rock#Television section, could somebody change "1998" to "1998-2008" for King of the Hill? Since Chris Rock appeared as Roger "Booda" Sack more than once and did so for the last time on the episode Lost in MySpace, which aired on November 2, 2008.

108.45.29.72 (talk) 06:04, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. VarunFEB2003 09:43, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

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  1. ^ Halbfinger, David M. (May 16, 2008). "Investigator to the Stars Is Convicted in Wiretaps". The New York Times. Retrieved April 29, 2010.