Talk:Christian pilgrimage

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Pilgrim sites by country[edit]

Have now categorised pilgrimage sites according to country. Optimised image positions, added a new category, and limited TOC to 2 levels for readability.Shadygrove2007 (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Lakefield, Ontario is not a pilgrimage site[edit]

Please delete the reference to "Lakefield, Ontario, Canada". This is a fictional concept that some author wrote in a novel, as part of the story-line; it is not real, Lakefield is not a pilgrimate site. --Atikokan (talk) 22:38, 22 February 2009 (UTC). Have deleted this entry and Rosslyn chapel (Scotland) which is not a major religious pilgrimage site.Shadygrove2007 (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Improvement[edit]

This article urgently needs expansion. At the moment it is little more than a list of sites. We need sections on things like the history of pilgrimage, the development of the concept and modern sites of pilgrimage (other than just listing them). Xandar 01:07, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

And four and a half years later, still does. I came here seeking information on which Christian groups encourage pilgrimage, which ones advocates it only as a sort of "journey of self-reflection" and which ones deny it having any significance whatsoever. 2001:708:10:10:F2DE:F1FF:FE54:62C4 (talk) 12:39, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Merger[edit]

Not sure where the merger discussion is, but I agree with the proposal. Oncenawhile (talk) 13:36, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Name should be "Catholic pilgrimage"[edit]

Hardly a word on anything else! Not a W Eur./Catholic exclusivity! Think of Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox pilgrimage. The centrality of places like Mout Ararat to Armenians, the oldest Christian nation, or of Aksum and Lalibela to Ethiopians, of traditions of the Apostles preaching and dying in India (Thomas) or Romania (Andrew) and the resulting pilgrimage sites. And apart from their base in faith, they do make more "logical" sense to any non-Catholic than Compostela or Loreto do, if I may. Now, that's inflammatory... ;-) ArmindenArminden (talk) 15:03, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion on how to enrich this page[edit]

Hi. I found this page it to be a bit of a trap. It has a strong West European/Roman Catholic focus (see above) and very little on basic issues of Christian pilgrimage as a concept and religious need. There is more concise, general information in the few lines at Pilgrimage and Pilgrimage#Christianity than here, and that's what most users will need first from any encyclopedia. You might want to work that info into this page's lead (sorry, I'd do it myself, but don't have the time to do it properly).
A few suggested sub-topics for the extended part, apart from the now skinny lead:

  • I found no hint in the Gospels that Jesus intentionally supported any pilgrimage "targets" other than the Jerusalem Temple. How much did he support going to the Temple is another issue. I don't know if in the Acts or the Epistles there's anything on the idea of pilgrimage for early believers in Jesus, but I don't think so. It looks very much like a development rooted in outside traditions.
  • The habit of people, for instance in the Holy Land but by far not restricted to it, to go to pilgrimage sites of whatever denomination and even religion and pray for help, as part of "folk religion".
  • Major Christian pilgrimage SITES, rather than churches, which are not Christian-owned (anymore) and thus not part of churches, and how the habits had to adapt. Some examples: the oldest traditional sites of the baptism of Jesus, the ascension of Jesus, the tomb of Lazarus, the hall of the Last Supper. Or ruined, out-of-reach sites like the Church of Saint Simeon Stylites, and that was true even long before the Syrian war.

Enjoy storming the castle! ArmindenArminden (talk) 15:03, 7 March 2016 (UTC)