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Domestic violence section[edit]

needs to cover this, actually. as everybody knows the biblical texts about women submitting to their husbands has been used to justify all kinds of nastiness. Jytdog (talk) 23:01, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Canon law[edit]

Jytdog how the inquisition, in which hundreds of thousands of people where tortured and murdered, is offtopic?. Rupert Loup (talk) 18:14, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

What in any of this content says anything about violence or about these "hundreds of thousands of people where tortured and murdered"? There is not a single word about violence in the content you added. The specific content you added is completely WP:OFFTOPIC. Jytdog (talk) 18:30, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Did you read it? because clearly says that it was a discriminatory system. In its corresponding articles says about the deaths. In the end of my edit says about the method of punishment. If you wan't I can make it more explicit. Rupert Loup (talk) 18:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
You are not explaining how is off topic. Please care to elaborate. Rupert Loup (talk) 18:46, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
It. Doesn't. Discuss. Violence. Especially not the canon law part. Above you mention 'hundreds of thousands of people where tortured and murdered" but the content you added was not even close to that, it was a bunch of bureaucratic mumbo jumbo apparently seeking to somehow justify the "hundreds of thousands of people where tortured and murdered". Jytdog (talk) 18:52, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Discrimination is a form of violence. The inquisition is based in the Canon law, I will make it more explicit with the violent parts and without the redundants. Rupert Loup (talk) 19:12, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
No. Discrimination is horseshit compared to "hundreds of thousands of people where tortured and murdered". Please see your Talk page. Jytdog (talk) 19:15, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
You know I think we need the opinion of other editors. Rupert Loup (talk) 19:45, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Sure we can use DR. But let me make sure what you are after - is what you want, that your initial edit be found to be on-topic and neutral? Jytdog (talk) 20:35, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
I am re-reading. Above you offered to rewrite the discrimination section to be neutral; that would be fine with me, if you think you can do it. Jytdog (talk) 20:36, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Err I fail in see how is not neutral. If you think that is not neutral then report it. Rupert Loup (talk) 20:38, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
the most recent version was much much better. thanks Jytdog (talk) 21:20, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Notable source[edit]

I suggest taking a look at the "Christianity and Violence" chapter in [1]. It has some useful information. If I get a chance I'll return and add to the article. Jason from nyc (talk) 15:20, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

I want to add more to the section titled "Christian Opposition to Violence' since the page seems to be more heavily favoring examples linking Christianity with violence. Issues I want to address are Christian pacifism and early persecution of Christians. I also want to research Christian perspectives and attitudes regarding war and violence. Sources for this I have found include:

Niebuhr, Reinhold. Why the Christian Church is not pacifist. Student Christian movement Press, 1940.

Dombrowski, Daniel. "Christian Pacifism." Theological Studies 52.4 (1991): 775.

Kelly, Edward Thomas. The anti-Christian persecution of 1616-1617 in Nanking. Columbia University., 1971.

De Ste, Geoffrey Ernest Maurice. "Why were the early christians persecuted?." Past and Present (1963): 6-38.

Alexander, Paul J. "Religious persecution and resistance in the Byzantine empire of the eighth and ninth centuries: methods and justifications."Speculum 52.02 (1977): 238-264.

Thompson, James Westfall. "The alleged persecution of the Christians at lyons in 177." The American Journal of Theology 16.3 (1912): 359-384.

Frend, William WHC. Martyrdom and persecution in the early church: A study of conflict from the Maccabees to Donatus. Wipf and Stock Publishers, 2014.

Bainton, Roland H. Christian attitudes toward war and peace: A historical survey and critical re-evaluation. Wipf and Stock Publishers, 2008.

Gaddis, Michael. There is no crime for those who have Christ: religious violence in the Christian Roman Empire. Vol. 39. Univ of California Press, 2005.

Wilkinson, Alan. Dissent Or Conform?: War, Peace and the English Churches 1900-1945. Lutterworth Press, 2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JosephCronin (talkcontribs) 03:05, 22 October 2016 (UTC)


Suggestions For The Page[edit]

There appears to be a lot of data that supports or provides evidence of Christianity and violence being linked.Perhaps an improvement can be made in expanding information on Christianity and pacifism/non violence. The article is very relevant to the topic however it seems biased towards the connection of Christianity and violence. Counterexamples did occur but the overwhelming evidence of violence appears biased. There is a lack of material in "Domestic Violence" although it has already been noted. Josavala (talk) 19:47, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

there is a separate article on Christian pacifism. This article is about Christianity and violence. Your perception of bias is just that. Jytdog (talk) 03:07, 22 October 2016 (UTC)