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- 1 Outlying Areas Senate Presidents Caucus
- 2 Edits from the U.S. House of Representatives
- 3 Assertion that Obama admin and National Dem leadership support Case: Not supported by Article
- 4 Contentious statements supported by Poor source- a one man "newspaper" with history of Political axe jobs
Outlying Areas Senate Presidents Caucus
The article on Outlying Areas Senate Presidents Caucus contained a reference to the following AP article for which a functioning link is apparently no longer available:
By David Briscoe
The Associated Press 14 DEC 2007
HONOLULU -- Americans in states and territories not attached to the U.S. mainland are tired of being treated like they're from another country.
They pay inflated postage and air fares; they suffer more onerous airport inspections and can't tune in to satellite radio, and some of them are miffed they don't seem to be worth even two bits. The territories want to be included in the 50-state quarter program.
"We've fallen through the cracks in Washington because our issues don't affect the contiguous 48 states," said Puerto Rican Senate President Kenneth McClintock in an interview after leading meetings with legislative leaders from Hawaii, Alaska, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.
The mix of leaders from offshore states and territories was a first. McClintock said Thursday the group plans to keep regular contact and meet again in May in Kentucky during a Council of State Governments conference. Legislators from American Samoa and the Virgin Islands were also invited but couldn't attend.
Issues the group is addressing involve both inequities created by federal rules and laws, as well as policies of some private companies, McClintock said.
He said Americans in the territories aren't even treated like second-class citizens, but more like they're from a foreign country, and many of the problems are shared by Hawaii and Alaska even though they're states.
Satellite radio, for example is not available outside the U.S. mainland, he noted.
Now that the nation's two satellite services are trying to merge, the group agreed to ask the Federal Communications Commission to make more far-reaching service a requirement for federal approval of Sirius' proposed absorption of XM.
The territories also object to the dual agricultural and security inspections passengers have to go through at their airports, especially now that both inspections are handled by agents of Homeland Security. In Hawaii, however, the agricultural inspection is a state function.
The legislators also object to census data that leaves out the territories and private polls that exclude Alaska and Hawaii, as well as residents of the territories. The fact that census data on the territories is incomplete adds to the cost of doing business, he said, because business planners have to pay for more of their own research.
"This is the first time in history that Senate presidents from outlying areas have gotten together to recognize that they have common problems, identify them and get together to solve them," McClintock said. He said Honolulu was chosen for the meeting because it's about midway among all the territories.
Not all the discrimination involves government, he said, citing the fact that Apple Inc. doesn't sell its iPhone in Puerto Rico even though AT&T provides service that could use it.
A major complaint against private industry is the practice of boosting postage and handling charges for merchandise mailed from the 48 mainland states.
Companies often charge more to mail to Hawaii and Alaska, for example, even when the U.S. Postal Service rates are the same as to any other state, McClintock noted.
Puerto Rico is treated as a dumping ground for outdated items, he said, accusing Dell Computer of selling older models for higher prices to buyers from Puerto Rico.
"We have no currency problem, no passport problem, but they just decide to treat us as a foreign country," he said.
While I'm not sure about the best way to reference this AP story in Hanabusa's article, it certainly provides an adequate source to the paragraph in question. Pr4ever (talk) 02:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Edits from the U.S. House of Representatives
Keep an eye on edits from User:188.8.131.52. It's someone (or possibly a shared computer) at the U.S. House of Representatives. I suggest that it is troubling when an anonymous user from the U.S. House of Representatives edits an article on someone running to serve in a congressional district.--Kevinkor2 (talk) 13:52, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Assertion that Obama admin and National Dem leadership support Case: Not supported by Article
The following clause was removed from a statement about Hanabusa's rival in the 2010 special election:
- "but the Obama administration and National Democratic leadership have indicated a preference for Ed Case."
The support for that statement was given as: "DePledge, Derrick (January 2010), "Senators boost Hanabusa", Honolulu Advertiser, http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Dato=20100110&Kategori=NEWS21&Lopenr=1100359&Ref=AR, retrieved 2010-01" (broken link). A good link is: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100110/NEWS21/103020003/Senators-boost-Hanabusa
There is no mention of support (rumored or otherwise) for Case from either the Obama administration or the national dem leadership. Perhaps some other article had this statement? If so, the clause should be restored with the citation. J JMesserly (talk) 02:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Contentious statements supported by Poor source- a one man "newspaper" with history of Political axe jobs
The following section was deleted under WP:BLP. Poorly sourced contentious material must be deleted immediately without prior discusion. "The burden of evidence for any edit on Wikipedia rests with the person who adds or restores material." The deleted section read:
- Bronster was investigating extensive corruption organized by Kamehameha Schools trustees. Hanabusa allegedly did this in concert with reputed Hawaii mafia boss Larry Mehau and with two of the five "Broken Trust" trustees. In his memoir, Hawaii's then-Governor Ben Cayetano explains (p 432-433):
- "...Hanabusa had other reasons to oppose Bronster's confirmation. (KSBE Trustee) Henry Peters and his influential mother, Hoaliku Drake, who had organized public demonstrations in opposition to Bronster's confirmation, were both supporters who lived in her district. Politically, that alone would have been reason enough for her to vote against (Bronster). but, as the Honolulu Advertiser would later disclose, Hanabusa had a close relationship with developer Jeff Stone, whose sister was married to Bishop Estate trustee Dickie Wong and who, along with Peters and Wong had been indicted by a grand jury convened by Bronster. As the attorney general's investigation would later reveal, prior to the confirmation hearing, Hanabusa had met privately with Larry Mehau and Wong. When confronted by a reporter, Hanabusa confirmed that the meeting had taken place, but, in a remarkable lapse of memory, she could not remember if Bronster's confirmation had been discussed."
- Source: Andrew Walden (December 14, 2009), "Cayetano: Hanabusa's Broken Trust connections lead to Ko Olina", Hawaii Free Press, retrieved 2010-05-14
The source is a one man newspaper who has engaged in rumor mongering against politicians he opposes. The Washington Post accused the author, Andrew Walden of being among the first to spread the rumor that Barack Obama had a Muslim upbringing.
For more info, see article: Hawaii Free Press.
Wikipedia is not a tabloid, but this passage of free association "reasoning" has all the hallmarks of a tabloid: guilt by association and indirect allegations etc. Regardless, the cite given easily meets the definition in WP:BLP of a poor source.
Please note that under BLP, contentious material that was deleted due to not having a reliable source must not be reverted/ restored until a reliable source is provided. -J JMesserly (talk) 03:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
More contentious material
I removed the following passages as I feel they are not notable and have nothing to do with Hanabusa and the campaign. Not to mention the Hawaii Free Press is nothing more than a one man extreme right-wing blog, therefore not a reliable source.
- During the campaign, the business dealings of Hanabusa's husband John Souza became controversial. In October 2003, Souza sold land to Jonnaven Monalim, a cousin of two people, Rodney Joseph Jr. and Ethan Malu Motta, convicted of murder charges related to a January 2004 shootout at the Pali golf course.
- Souza also sold his trucking company Pueo Trucking to Waianae porta potty king George Grace III. Grace has never been convicted of anything, but was held civilly liable for two stolen trucks which were part of his company's porta-potty service fleet. 
--Travis Thurston+ 06:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- I have raised this issue on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive_71#Hawaii Free Press.
- I suggest that people with opinions for or against Hawaii Free Press add some comments there.
- --Kevinkor2 (talk) 02:42, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia admins today deleted the "Hawaii Free Press" article. To me, this answers the debate as to whether or not it's a reliable source. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hawaii Free Press (2nd nomination) --Travis Thurston+ 02:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- "Kubo nomination: Hanabusa, Souza tied to Pali Golf course shooters' mob > Hawaii Free Press > Articles Main". Hawaii Free Press. Retrieved 2010-07-11.
- Dooley, Jim (March 3, 2004). "Sheriff admits dealings with two felons look 'bad'". Honolulu Advertiser. Retrieved 2010-06-28.
- "Fireworks, dirt, and stolen trucks: Colleen Hanabusa and the Honolulu Raceway Deal > Hawaii Free Press > Articles Main". Hawaii Free Press. Retrieved 2010-07-11.