Talk:2006 Colorado Amendment 38

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved Consensus appears to be in favor of the move per WP:CRITERIA. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 02:36, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Colorado Amendment 38 (2006) → Colorado Amendment 38 –

unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). --Relisted Vacation^nine 20:25, 17 December 2012 (UTC) 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also these:-

- Colorado Amendment 38 (2006) → Colorado Amendment 38 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 41 (2006) → Colorado Amendment 41 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 42 (2006) → Colorado Amendment 42 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 44 (2006) → Colorado Amendment 44 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 46 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 46 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 47 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 47 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 48 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 48 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 49 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 49 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 50 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 50 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 51 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 51 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 52 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 52 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 54 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 54 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 58 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 58 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 59 (2008) → Colorado Amendment 59 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Colorado Amendment 62 (2010) → Colorado Amendment 62 (move) – unnecessary disambiguation (these are numbered individually so the year is not needed). 82.132.248.41 (talk) 11:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would object to these and all similar requests as inconsistent with WP:CRITERIA on grounds that the elimination of parenthetical years creates less consistency across the project while losing precision and conciseness. Although there are some jurisdictions which re-use initiative/measure/referenda/issue/amendment titles, there are some which do not, and there are some jurisdictions which change the policy from doing so to not doing so. I assume that this is where the current convention of Jurisdiction + Type + Number + (Parenthetical Year) came from, and which can be observed (until very recently) at places such as Category:Initiatives_in_the_United_States Category:Initiatives_in_the_United_States Category:Initiatives_in_the_United_States
The basic title format of State + Type + Number + (Parenthetical year) provides maximal information very concisely: California Proposition 13 (1978), Oregon Ballot Measure 9 (1992), Washington Referendum 71 (2009), Washington Initiative 502 (2011), and Colorado Amendment 64 (2012). Redirects such as Proposition 13 can easily be established for famous items or from year-to-year, with those easily converted do disambiguation pages as needed should similar titles be WP:Notable. The State + Type + Number + (Parenthetical year) format is well established for many states, if not most, and this seems to me the simplest, soundest, most comprehensive and least ambiguous solution. This article, with its previous parenthetical year number, was consistent with long-established practice across all of Wikipedia. The permanent article should include the year number, with redirects such as Initiative 502 created or changed as necessary.

I would also not that this is a slightly obscure corner of Wikipedia and suggest that, for maximum discussion,the topic be brought for discussion in more visible places such as project and category pages. Rorybowman (talk) 22:35, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment this is an improperly formatted multimove request -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 06:04, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
see: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation)#Requested moves – this discussion needs moved to a higher level. Wbm1058 (talk) 19:18, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. There's nothing to disambiguate. The new titles are actually fit our criteria much better; the existing titles obviously fail the "naturalness" and "conciseness" criteria. Once we fix a few more of these, we'll get the consistency criterion as well. Sure, the existing system is consistent, but having lots of consistently bad titles is nothing to be proud of. bobrayner (talk) 22:25, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:CRITERIA. I understand (but disagree with) the arguments for pre-disambiguation for initiatives that are renumbered each year, but it makes no sense for those that aren't, like Colorado's. --BDD (talk) 21:38, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – per Talk:Nebraska Initiative Measure 416, Colorado Amendment 43 (2006) moved to Colorado Amendment 43. If there is consensus for this RM, then no further action on this item is necessary. However, if this move is declined for no consensus, then I suggest that the move of Colorado Amendment 43 (2006) should be reversed. – Wbm1058 (talk) 14:06, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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