Talk:Desmond's

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Incorrect wording?

"Following the death of Norman Beaton in 1994"...Surely the death of the lead star in the show had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the spinoff series, Porkpie? Taken from his own wiki entry, here is proof that Desmond's was over and the wording IMO should be "Following the end of Desmond's..." or something similar. Anyway, the proof:

"After years of hard living began taking its toll on his health, he retired to Guyana in 1994 (just as his character in 'Desmond's' was doing the same), where he collapsed at the airport and died a few hours later at the age of 60."

That clearly says to me he's retired, hence Desmond's is over...it didn't end because he died, it ended because he retired. The fact that he died is evident but not an integral part of this fact...it had no bearing on the show's future had he lived or died. 78.86.230.62 (talk) 23:23, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cosby Show

I removed the following section from the article due to inaccuracy:

There was an episode of the Cosby Show where the cast of Desmonds were included as acquaintances of the Huckstables. The result was a game of cricket played in the living room of the Huckstable house, much to the dismay of Clair Huckstable. Cricket Episode

The link provided mentions two West Indians called "Carleton" and "Dr. Harmon", neither of whom were characters in Desmond's, appearing in the episode. According to IMDB [1] Norman Beaton was Carleton in the episode and Sullivan Walker was Harmon. Given that Beaton starred in Desmond's as the eponymous Mr. Ambrose and the USA-based Sullivan Walker never appeared in Desmond's this is clearly not a case of the cast of the show appearing as the same characters in a different show but rather one actor appearing as a totally different character in a different show. This information would be relevant in Beaton's own article (and Sullivan's I suppose) but it has no bearing on Desmond's whatsoever and so has been removed. Just thought I would add that here in case anybody thought I was vandalising. Keresaspa (talk) 19:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cosby Show as an inspiration for Desmond's

Surely there should be some sort of reference to the Cosby Show, i remember cast members appearing on the likes of Wogan and other chat show's saying Desmond's was inspired by the Cosby Show. --The Mercenary 73 (talk) 12:59, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Cexycy: With this edit, you boldly added material. I reverted your edit. At that point, if you disagree, it is time to discuss the issue. Restoring the edit with no further information does nothing to resolve the issue. Please see WP:BRD.

You added "As the title suggests, the song is in a soca style, ironically it also features a few scratching techniques in it."

1) Your addition of a "style" (genre) of music is your unsourced opinion. (In cases where editors make these types of additions repeatedly, we have a series of consensus warnings for WP:GWAR.)

2) You feel the title is "ironic".

Both of these additions are your opinion. - SummerPhD^v2.0 16:05, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the irony is that the song is entitled "Don't Scratch My Soca", which implies no scratching. I'm not sure if it refers to DJ scratching however there is still some type of scratching there, hence the irony. Considering Desmond's is a comedy show, I would have thought this was a mild little joke thrown in. For that reason, I believe the word "ironic" would be factual and not my own opinion. Cexycy (talk) 01:39, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is your opinion that this song is soca. It is also your opinion that the title is ironic. (The title does not say there is no scratching in the song, which most people would probably agree is ironic if there is scratching in the song. This, however, is not the main problem here.)

The issue here is that you are adding your opinions to the article. Reliable sources do not say this song is soca or that the title is ironic, you say the song is soca and the title is ironic. Coverage in independent reliable sources discussing this would demonstrate that reliable sources consider the song soca, the title ironic and both items of meaningful significance. Without such coverage it is your opinion and trivial. - SummerPhD^v2.0 03:14, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If I am honest, I can't prove the song is of soca genre, however it makes a lot of sense that it is. As I stated before, the song title "asks" for no scratching (in the soca), however there is in the song, hence the irony or should I say ironic humour? How can you argue with that? What would be the point of the song asking for something like this if it was NOT soca, then there was scratching? It would make no sense whatsoever. I also know that the socas originates from Trinidad and Tobago, however I do not believe any of the cast, nor the characters are from there. More irony perhaps? I'm not sure, so I won't mention it at this point. Cexycy (talk) 20:17, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Again, whether or not the song is soca and whether or not the title is ironic is not the point. There are two problems with both claims which need to be addressed to add this material:

1) The claims are your opinions. Your opinions do not belong in an encyclopedia. The way to resolve this is to cite independent reliable sources to back up the claims.

2) The claims are trivia. Most articles on shows do not assign genres to the theme song or provide and editor's opinion as to rhetorical devices used in the lyrics. To demonstrate that the information is not trivial, you will need to cite independent reliable sources discussing the show to back up the claims.

(Incidentally, you are still misusing the word "irony".) - SummerPhD^v2.0 23:14, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The theme IS soca, is it a fact, not my opinion and I found a couple of sites supporting this. Anyone who has heard the theme song will know there are scratching effects in it. Therefore how is this my opinion? Can you also tell me how I am misusing the term of irony? The title of the song asks for no scratching, however there is! Cexycy (talk) 21:50, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to cite reliable sources to add either detail. - SummerPhD^v2.0 02:21, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User edited sites, forums and blogs are not reliable sources. Please see WP:SPS. - SummerPhD^v2.0 02:19, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Streaming

At present in November 2022 it is not available on US Netflix, but I gather it streams on Tubi TV (and on Roku's own streaming service.) ELSchissel (talk) 01:59, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]