Talk:Donna J. Stone

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This article is the subject of a request emailed to the Volunteer Response Team (VRT).

Issues identified are: Verifying copyright status of contents as described below
The VRTS ticket number is 2010042310043054.

Please discuss these issues here, being mindful of the policies on biographies of living persons.

Copyvio Issue

I stumbled onto this page and suspected it of being a copyright violation. After a quick check on Google, I found that all of the text was taken almost word for word from a website called Wielder of Words. I tagged the article for a copyvio so that it would be marked in the history and so that the author would be notified by template. I then removed the copyvio text and the db tag so that the entire article wouldn't be deleted. OlYeller^Talktome 00:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Donna J. Stone

Hi. Thank you for your efforts to prevent the possible deletion of the article I wrote about Donna J. Stone, and particularly for removing the request for speedy deletion. I did, in fact, write the article myself, and obtained written permission from Dr. Christopher Stone, Ms. Stone's son and the copyright holder of the photo I used in the article, to use the image in the Wikipedia article. (I know you didn't mention any copyright concerns about the image, so you probably saw that I got permission for the image.)

I know about the Wielder of Words website, of course, since I linked to it in the article and included it in the references. Dr. Stone also holds the copyright to the site. What I'd like to clarify is that I wrote the Wikipedia article before Dr. Stone made his website. This is verifiable by the recorded creation dates of both web pages. The history section of my Wikipedia artice, which can be viewed here, shows that I created it and wrote the bulk of it on December 29, 2009. The Who Is website shows that the Wielder of Words site was created on April 5, 2010, which can be seen here. (You'll have to enter the domain name to see the date; I can't link to it directly.)

Although I don't think it was necessary given the free nature of Wiki information, Dr. Stone did get my permission to incorporate the text from my Wikipedia article into his website about his mother. (I'm certainly not implying that he violated any copyright, either.) I believe the dates of creation should allay any concerns about copyright infringement.

As for the numerous references, I was trying to list everything even alluded to in either the article or its links. Admittedly, my compulsive nature probably led to overkill, with some references having only a tenuous connection to the text of the article. I'm a literary historian (with a special interest in modern poetry), and am prone to being overly inclusive. I'm happy to clean up the references section.

Since it seems unlikely that most readers of both web pages would check the dates the pages were created, your concern that the page I wrote might be deleted due to copyright concerns is a very good point. I can think of a couple of ways to prevent this. The easiest thing would be for me to ask Dr. Stone for permission to use text from his website in my Wikipedia article. Another option would be for me to rewrite the article from scratch, although I must admit that the time and effort involved make this a less desirable option for me. But I don't want the article to be deleted. What would you recommend?

Thanks you for reading this long entry.

Mary Ann

--Mah Jong (talk) 08:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I was asked to weigh in here since I work a lot with copyright issues on Wikipedia. There is a way to resolve this that hopefully won't take too much time and effort. I'll give more information at your talk page. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Moon. OlYeller^Talktome 17:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]