Talk:Evelyn Baring, 1st Earl of Cromer

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tagged npov--seriously people, "constant intruding in Egyptian politics"? "Just because they were accused of 'killing' a British officer"? Can we at least pretend to be objective here? 03:24, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

What's not "neutral" here? All of the above are plain hard facts, not opinion. Maybe you don't like them because they show the true colour of your "western" civilization.
-Proud Egyptian
The language throughout is littered with insinuation and connotation.
Like, "Along with this new system, the Egyptian army was completely dismantled forcing the Egyptian people to rely solely on the British occupation force." Oh, was this the same army that failed utterly in the Sudan and which had 3 times before mutinied and revolted? There is, of course, no mention that the army was as much a threat to Egypt as a million European imperialists - as subsequent history in Egypt and other places in the Middle East has demonstrated. So yeah, POV is the right term. --Gwern (contribs) 02:05 27 December 2009 (GMT)

"ran the territory with great drive"? first, "great" is not NPOV (no more than "iron fist" would be)! second, no facts or explanation back up this statement or the one that follows, making it very confusing and NOT at all informative. third, word choice - you "run" a fast-food franchise... not a once and future nation that had no wish to be "run" by anyone... Also there is far too much detail about the Denshawai Incident - the cross-link to the incident should suffice - I would take it out except that then this article would have hardly any content at all. Definitely needs serious attention! Hope to have a chance to do the requisite research... Vcrs (talk) 05:57, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

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Styles Section[edit]

I have removed the Styles section above from the article as it is intrusive and not particularly informative. The most important awards should probably be mentioned in the text, particularly the 1892 Lordship. I am leaving a copy here for reference. Leonard (talk) 15:20, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


  • 1841-1858: Evelyn Baring
  • 1858-1869: Second Lieutenant Evelyn Baring
  • 1869-1871: Lieutenant Evelyn Baring
  • 1871-1876: Captain Evelyn Baring
  • 1876-1878: Captain Evelyn Baring, CSI
  • 1878-1881: Major Evelyn Baring, CSI
  • 1881-1883: Major Evelyn Baring, CSI, CIE
  • 1883-1885: Sir Evelyn Baring, KCSI, CIE
  • 1885-5 January 1888: Sir Evelyn Baring, KCSI, CB, CIE
  • 5 January-2 June 1888: Sir Evelyn Baring, KCB, KCSI, CIE
  • 2 June 1888-1892: Sir Evelyn Baring, GCMG, KCB, KCSI, CIE
  • 1892-1895: The Right Honourable the Lord Cromer, GCMG, KCB, KCSI, CIE
  • 1895-1899: The Right Honourable the Lord Cromer, GCB, GCMG, KCSI, CIE
  • 1899-1901: The Right Honourable the Viscount Cromer, GCB, GCMG, KCSI, CIE
  • 1901-1906: The Right Honourable the Earl of Cromer, GCB, GCMG, KCSI, CIE, PC
  • 1906-1917: The Right Honourable the Earl of Cromer, GCB, OM, GCMG, KCSI, CIE, PC