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DYK nom

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--DYKReviewBot (report bugs) 18:31, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Yoninah: Maybe this one splits the difference between ALT0 and ALT1? I don't have a strong preference, ALT0 is fairly compact and gives all the necessary details, IMO. Also, since we missed my first proposed date, do you think we could swing for September 27, which is the date of a major patch? Axem Titanium (talk) 17:23, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Axem Titanium: Yes, ALT2 sounds fine to me. Before I approve it, I'd just like clarification on what the source is talking about. It says: As I mentioned in the past, far back before even the original release of 1.0, I was tasked with creating an original language for the dragons of Dravania. How does that reconcile with developing the language for the 2010 edition? Yoninah (talk) 19:14, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA nomination?

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It looks pretty good, perhaps someone could nominate it, help make a Final Fantasy XIV Good Topic. :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:00, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Axem Titanium: 3.2, 3.3, and 3.4 patches are all unsourced in the table, unless I'm missing something. Anarchyte (talk | work) 06:02, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've added references to the official patch notes for each patch. Does that suffice for verifiability? Axem Titanium (talk) 19:02, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TheJoebro64 (talk · contribs) 17:17, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Waiting four months for a review? I'm surprised this wasn't picked up earlier. JOEBRO64 17:17, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the pickup! Axem Titanium (talk) 17:24, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Lead (or lede)
  • ... for Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4. If I remember correctly, the name of Mac OS X had been changed to just OS X by 2013. WPVG consensus is to use what the OS was called at the time the game was released. Same point applies in the last paragraph of the lead (i.e. "the company suspended sales of the Mac version", "Mac sales resumed in February 2016")
  • It was released on June 23, 2015—nearly two years after the debut of A Realm Reborn and almost five years after the ill-fated launch of the original Final Fantasy XIV. Is the latter part (almost five years after the launch of the initial version) really worth mentioning? It doesn't seem that important.
    • Comment: It connects to the next sentence about Uematsu ("Nobuo Uematsu, who had not worked on the title since 2010, returned to collaborate with Masayoshi Soken on the soundtrack"). How about: "It was released on June 23, 2015, nearly two years after the debut of A Realm Reborn. Naoki Yoshida served as director and producer and Nobuo Uematsu, who had not worked on the title since the ill-fated 2010 launch of the original Final Fantasy XIV, returned to collaborate with Masayoshi Soken on the soundtrack." Axem Titanium (talk) 06:05, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • IMO level cap should be linked at the expansion pack increases the level cap
  • Heavensward was well received upon release—I advise striking "upon release". This is usually pointless because almost all reviews for a game/expansion are written at the time of release.
  • ... the title had reached a cumulative total of 5 million subscriptions. From my understanding, MOS policies say numbers under 10 should be written out. Up to you though.
Gameplay
Plot
  • I haven't read this section fully yet, but it's massive—the main story section is over 1,000 words. Plot rules for video games usually follow the ones for films; 700 words is the recommended maximum length. I'd try to trim the excessive details that wouldn't matter to a general audience.
    • I'm at a conference until Wednesday so I won't be able to respond in too much detail to this GAN until then, but I just wanted to respond to this real quick. Heavensward is part of a dense serial plot that relies heavily on knowledge of prior events to understand the context of the story at hand. It has far more in common with a serial television show than a film (but is unable to fit in the mold of how articles on TV shows summarize plot since it doesn't have "episodes"). As for the WP:MOS/VG guideline about a 700 word "limit", this was added to the MOS unilaterally by a single editor without discussion and WT:VG is littered with discussions criticizing such a strict limit. Many of these discussions include provisos that the length of the plot section should reflect how well-received the story was in reviews---this happens to be a facet of the game that has drawn particular praise. For Heavensward, I aimed for a similar word count as Final Fantasy XIV#Story, a GA that was promoted in January 2016. I believe that the current length of the plot section aids the reader in gaining a complete understanding of the story and warrants its length. Axem Titanium (talk) 09:04, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The three nations of the Eorzean Alliance—Gridania, Limsa Lominsa, and Ul'dah—play a smaller role in the story compared to A Realm Reborn, as does their adversary, the Garlean Empire. This should be sourced as it's WP:OR (based on your interpretation of the story)
Development
Reception
References
Misc.
  • Non-free cover art has a good rationale.
  • No copyvio

JOEBRO64 20:48, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TheJoebro64: Thanks for the review. I've marked my responses in bold. Axem Titanium (talk) 06:07, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Axem Titanium: OK looks cool. Promoting JOEBRO64 20:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Axem Titanium (talk) 02:17, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

March 2019

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At Ferret's suggestion, I am posting a justification for some of my FFXIV edits by first showing Ibberd not to be a bit character due to how he progress the storyline as a "Knight of Cerebus"-type of villain. The first being the infamous "regicide" in 2.5 where Ibberd chopped off Raubhan's arm and turned the Crystal Braves on the Scions, starting at 1:35:22, then acting against Lolorito in 3.0 to execute Raubhan as a "traitor" to their nation, and finally when Iberd unmasked as the Griffon before committing suicide while using the aether in Nidhogg's Eyes (which the Ascians got in the 3.3 epilogue and gave to Ibberd in thr 3.4 epilogue) and his subordinates' dying prayers to create Shinryu in the first half of 3.5. Nidhogg's Eyes were revealed in 3.0 to be acquired by Thordan I's son, taking one to his grave before it was used to summon King Thordan. 2603:9000:7D0A:8C00:934:7319:9A57:C47D (talk) 23:36, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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