Talk:Garnett Wikoff

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Review: October 25, 2024. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Garnett Wikoff appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 April 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that delivering newspapers was how Garnett Wikoff became an Olympic runner?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 14:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that delivering newspapers was how Garnett Wikoff became an Olympic runner? Source: Norwalk Evening Herald ("Garnett Wikoff is working his way through college by selling newspapers. He has a route and it is a large one, covering territory of nine or ten miles. This has to be traversed each morning before breakfast and school. It is to this work that Wikoff owes his successes and fame as a long-distance runner and from this work he also earns enough to pay for his education. For two years he has had the route and has carried papers in rain or shine, in heat or cold. Each morning, the young man is up at an hour when most of his school mates are asleep. Daily he began to quicken his pace. First he adopted a brisk walk, then a dog trot, and now he runs at full speed, stopping only to deliver his papers.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Roman Josi

5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:12, 8 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Garnett Wikoff; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Article was expanded at least 5x, is long enough and is neutral. It was nominated for DYK on due time. It cites sources inline. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports text similarity of 40.5% in one source commenting "violation possible". However, the text portions are quotes only, therfore, no copyvio is there. The hook is well-formatted, interesting, and is cited inline. Its length is within limit. QPQ is missing. I will approve after the QPQ was provided. CeeGee 08:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@CeeGee: Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Roman Josi as a QPQ. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:16, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Everything is fine now. Good to go. CeeGee 08:23, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  @BeanieFan11 and CeeGee: I really like this article. The one problem that jumps out is the 3 references citing Ancestry.com, which raises flags from a WP:RS point of view. Personally, I think it's ok to just delete that part of the article – it's kind of weak to be citing someone's "occupation" as listed in the U.S. Census and including that as encyclopedic information. But if you really want to keep it, I would advise fixing the links so that they link directly to the relevant census records, and then only listing Ancestry.com in the "via" field – Ancestry.com is not the actual source at all; they are just re-publishing the information. (The distinction is important because the original content on Ancestry.com itself is full of speculative garbage.) Cielquiparle (talk) 15:25, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  @BeanieFan11 and CeeGee: issues have gone unaddressed; can they be fixed within a week? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:15, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Oops! I forgot about this. I'll see if I can work on it now. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  It seems I don't have the ability to use Ancestry.com anymore. Pinging the person who added the text and references to it: @Mgreason: BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  I have found no way to access census records other than a 3rd party, so I removed "the 3 references citing Ancestry.com" and deleted the section regarding later life. Mgrē@sŏn (Talk) 18:31, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestry.com references have been removed. Cielquiparle (talk) 20:11, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Garnett Wikoff/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: BeanieFan11 (talk · contribs) 02:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: WikiOriginal-9 (talk · contribs) 14:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead is a little short. Honestly, I'm not really sure what to tell you to add though, the article isn't too big but this guy is pretty obscure. You have probably included everything there is out to to find about him, you usually do.
- Tried expanding a bit to talk about his OSU career.
Remove those refs from the lead.
- Done.
Cite full name in body.
- Done.
Added categories: People from Perry County, Ohio, Track and field athletes from Ohio, Ohio State Buckeyes men's track and field athletes, Ohio State Buckeyes track and field coaches, United States Army Corps of Engineers personnel, American military personnel of World War II.
"became friends with Carl Cooke" Who is that?
- Gave context.
"track team captain" link team captain.
- Linked.
"Wikoff was named to the school's track and field All-Century team" add "in 2002"
- Added.
"runs at full speed, stopping only to deliver his papers" This isn't a correction, just wanted to note that the mental image of him running at full speed to deliver papers is funny.
- lol.
"In June of that year" What year?
- Clarified.
"His friend Carl Cooke was also selected" change to just Cooke. Already mentioned they were friends earlier.
- Changed.
"Ohio State varsity athletes" link varsity.
- Linked.
"third heat" I assume there's a link for heat?
- This also came up at Negussie Roba: [you:] "last in his heat" Is there a link for that? – [me:] Hmmm... I can't find one – thoughts? – [you:] I don't see anything for heat either. Hopefully someone creates Glossary of track and field terms.
Shame Mikhail Nikolsky was moved to draftspace.
"Ohio State cross country team" link "cross country"
- Linked.
"rater at an insurance company" What's rater.
- I don't know what that is either so I changed it to just say he worked for an insurance company.

I think that's everything. Excellent research on this guy. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiOriginal-9: BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That all looks good now. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:48, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did a spot check of sources and didn't find any more issues. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:43, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.