Talk:German Minority Electoral Committee

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It someone has a citation to an analysis of their votes it'd be interesting, IMO, to know why their vote totals have declined significantly, when the German minority population itself has remained relatively constant. Presumably ethnic Germans are shifting to vote for standard Polish parties based on non-ethnic political issues? --Delirium 04:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Such an analysis should compare the resultats at the various electoral levels, a comparison could be made with the South Schleswig Voter Federation (SSW) in Germany (see the tables of electoral results in the SSW German article). --Pylambert (talk) 18:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Does this organisation even exist?[edit]

See Wikipedia:Help desk#German Minority Political Party in Poland. An individual, apparently Professor Karl Cordell, who features prominently in the bibliography for this article, posted the following:

"Your English langauge site has a page dedicated to this apparent organisation. I have twoo problems with this: First it doesn'y actually exist. The German minority in Poland is represented through the medium of a German electoral committee. Secondly, I am cited as one of the main sources for this piee of dis-information. I've never claimed that the electoral committee is a political party. Can you please as a minimum remove my articles as spources and preferably remove the article itself."

From a quick look at the few sources cited that are actually available, and relying on Google translate, I have to say that this appears to be entirely plausible. For now, I'm going to remove Cordell's works from the bibliography, and mark the article as needing attention. If proper sourcing which actually states that this supposed organisation actually exists can't be found, I shall propose that the article be deleted. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

For further evidence that we've got this wrong, see the Polish-language [1] and German-language [2] articles linked to this article. Both refer to an 'Election Committee', and not a political party. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:33, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Functionally, this organization is a political party in that it fields candidates in elections who represent a membership with a specific set of interests. However, we should change the title of the article to "German Minority Election Committee", which is a more direct translation of the organization's name. This would be more accurate and would neutralize complaints that we shouldn't label an organization a party if the word party doesn't appear in its name. The Professor's complaint, by the way, is misleading and rather legalistic. It is true that that this organization doesn't exist as an organization with the word party in its name, nor is it registered in Poland as a "party", but the organization certainly exists. It is registered in Poland as the election committee of a national minority, as opposed to the election committee of a party, but this seems to be a distinction made only in Poland. Here is the organization's website. Here is a page documenting the organization on the website of the Polish government's National Electoral Commission. Marco polo (talk) 19:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

There is no such political party as "German Minority" in Poland. According to Polish election law (Ustawa z dnia 5 stycznia 2011 r. - Kodeks wyborczy [Election Code], Dz. U. z 2011 r. Nr 21, poz. 112 (2011-01-05)), candidates may be proposed only by election committees, registered prior to an election. These committees may be registered either by a political party or by a group of at least 15 citizens. German Minority is an election committee of the latter variety. Its own website says quite unequivocally: Komitet Wyborczy nie jest partią polityczną ("The election committee is not a political party"). [3]Kpalion(talk) 04:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)