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Citrus trees

Citrus trees can be grafted with limbs of orange, lemon, lime, grapefruit and other varieties. Will any body plz tell me that the grafted plant whether give out fruits or not if grafted of so e.g. if we graft an apple tree with rose plant than whether the tree will bear apples as well as rose flowers. ?

if you graft a rose bud onto an apple tree the grafted part of the rose plant on the apple tree will produce rose flowers (behave like a rose plant) but the rest of the apple tree will continue producing apples(continue to behave like an apple tree). the rose plant that has been grafted only obtains its nutrients from the apple tree's transport system, not its genetic characteristics (: Robbyrobrob 08:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quite probably not entirely true (horray for weasel words =). The grafted branches do in fact take on a certain degree of the host tree, a slight hybridization if you will. I've no idea on how this would be noticable on a rose on apple graft though, would be an interesting experiment. 85.228.39.204 (talk) 17:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Citrus Trees

Roses and apple trees cant be grafted

Herbaceous grafting

Can we have a source on the claim of Japanese grafting robots in the "Herbaceous grafting" section? Chrishibbard7 (talk) 21:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Duff (talk) 00:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pomato

Pomatoes are grafted the same way. I think... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.6.122.36 (talk) 05:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Misinformation

The last paragraph of "Grafting Methods" in "Grafting" is full of typos and I don't think it is reliable information.

It seems impossible to produce a new species this way, as grafting won't alter the plants' genomes.

You are technically correctHal Cross 11:16, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've read of this phenomenon in other sources, even of the example given. Biologically, two different species can create a third species through reproduction.Chrishibbard7 (talk) 21:54, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scion?

I believe it is spelled Cion.... Could be wrong, but I'm quite sure 83.109.82.139 09:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dictionary.com suggests that scion is the preferred spelling, and that cion is a variant. 85.228.39.204 (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reference for Grafting

I was checking some references, when I come across this one Titled A History of Grafting at [1] This is a fairly large pdf with lots of good info published by an experts. I thought this site may be of interest to this article. Blackash have a chat 13:24, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dwarfing

"[dwarf or semi-dwarf trees planted at high density] provide more fruit per unit of land." I believe this statement is incorrect with respect to reasons for planting on dwarfing rootstocks. It is my understanding that full-size trees produce the most fruit per unit of land area, but the other reasons for choosing dwarfing rootstocks trump that particular reason in most cases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.94.215 (talk) 22:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is much easier to harvest fruit from a dwarf tree than a full-size one, so the profit per unit area is higher. In addition, the time from planting to fruiting is lower, and it is less expensive to change variety etc if smaller trees are used. There is also a lower chance of wind or storm damage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.176.131 (talk) 22:04, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tree of 40 Fruits

One of you experts might want to add this to the article. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 15:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Grafting diagrams

I wanted to let any active editors who weren't aware of the grafting diagrams on commons. May be useful for this article. Offnfopt^(talk) 23:50, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Complete rework of "History, society and culture" section

Hello, I just wanted to say that I'm completely redoing this section because I believe it's extremely brief and I've found a source that seems to challenge some of the information written in this section. In case someone disagrees I'm leaving the old information below:

Grafting with detached scions has been practiced for thousands of years. It was in use by the Chinese before 2000 BC,^[1] then spread to the rest of Eurasia and was well established in ancient Greece.^[2] In the Christian New Testament, grafting is used as an image to illustrate the relationship between the Jews as a chosen people and the evangelisation of the gentiles, e.g. in Romans 11:17 and 11:24.^{[citation needed]} During the occupation of Nepal by the Chinese, the practice of grafting has slowly begun to decline. Many grafters were forced into exile during emperor Xin Ling II's reign over Kathmandu, Nepal. The demand for grafters in western culture exceeds the supply. Typical grafted plants include fruit salad trees and Oklahoman guava^{[citation needed]}.

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References

^ Cooper and Chapot (1977) Fruit production with special emphasis on fruit for processing. In: Citrus Science and Technology (eds. S. Nagi, P.E. Shur, and M.K. Valdhuis) Vol. 2, p.11
^ Garner, R.J. (1988) The Grafters Handbook P.46 ISBN 0-304-32172-9

Organic/Non-GMO status

A particular discussion I would be interested in seeing, but currently lacking in coverage that is readable to the layman, is the question of whether grafting is philosophically compatible with the principles of "natural" food movements like organic and non-GMO labeling. For example, much of the rhetoric for non-GMO involves the danger or distaste for "frankenfood", a metaphor for the Frankenstein's monster created from attaching the limbs of different bodies together in a genetic engineering context - but which is literally the process used in horticultural grafting. The USDA does not seem to consider at all the question of grafting in relation to organic certification. I think grafting remains something that is little known to the public at large, so the question doesn't come up. The non-GMO industry seems to consider it acceptable to use a fully GM rootstock, with a non-GMO scion, with the resulting fruit certified as non-GMO product. Would non-GMO consumers agree? This article[2] also touches on the topic by examining the likelihood that some genetic material may pass from the rootstock to the scion and its eventual fruit. Ham Pastrami (talk) 13:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, polyploidy is also not considered GMO, yet of course it modifieds the chromosome count. Valery Zapolodov (talk) 05:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh NO, p l e a s e don't !

... convert the list-form texts into something else. They read just fine as they are ! What a mess it would become, if all this were converted into one single amorphous mass of text. MistaPPPP (talk) 19:57, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Cooper and Chapot (1977) Fruit production with special emphasis on fruit for processing. In: Citrus Science and Technology (eds. S. Nagi, P.E. Shur, and M.K. Valdhuis) Vol. 2, p.11

[2] Garner, R.J. (1988) The Grafters Handbook P.46 ISBN 0-304-32172-9

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