Talk:Greek underworld
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Hades has more info
[edit]There's more info about this in Hades. If someone sees this, please copy the relevant info over. I'd do it myself, but I'm a bit busy. Sir Fastolfe 23:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC) wow
three-part division
[edit]This page depicts the dead being sorted out and sent to a good place, a middle place, or a bad place. That's not how I read Elysium, Asphodel fields, and Tartarus. Elysium is aboveground near an entrance to Hades. It is reserved for the divine offspring of the gods. Tartarus is far below Hades. It is a place of imprisonment and torment for those sent there individually by the gods. Unless the gods intervene on a case-by-case basis, folks go to Hades, which is basically sad and gloomy. Jonathan Tweet 14:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Your description seems like a three-part division. I've never heard that Elysium was reserved for the offspring of the gods, only that it was reserved for the heroic, who often were said to be offspring of the gods. What we have is the especially good (as defined by the mythology of the time) going to Elysium, the especially bad going to Tartarus, with most people going to a middle place, which is not especially good or especially bad, but a pale shadow of this life. The idea of who gets to go to Elysium, or some sort of reward in the afterlife expanded, as the idea of what constituted a meritorious life changes.--RLent (talk) 17:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Why does this article list the Underworld as 4 parts? Aren't the Elysium Islands and Elysium Plains one in the same? The offspring of divinity went there as did those especially heroic because for the most part, the heros were mostly part god. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.64.176 (talk) 23:18, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Greek Underworld
[edit]While the Aenead was basically Virgil tweaking the Oddessey, he still created his own "Romanized" version of the underworld.
Domus is wrong
[edit]Greek word for house is "oikia"; "domus" is Latin. so saying "domos Aidaou" for house of Hades is only correct if readers are told it is the Latin translation of an English language phrase. 108.38.36.17 (talk) 02:09, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- No, δόμος (domos) means "house", like οἰκία (oikía), οἶκος (oîkos), or δῶμα (dôma). Whoever added domos Aidaou (sic) was thinking of the common epic line-end δόμον Ἄϊδος εἴσω (domon Aïdos eísō), "into the house of Hades". — cardiff | chestnut — 03:38, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Hades is the name, not Underworld?
[edit]I thought the name of the realm itself is Hades. You go to Hades when you die, not the Underworld. The Underworld is a section in Hades where Hades himself rules on his throne, and it's guarded by Cerberus. You don't go to the Underworld when you die. bhegeta 13:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC) wow — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.40.249 (talk) 17:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Linking within subject headings
[edit]Hello - We shouldn't be wikilinking subject headings - I am going to remove the ones that are there - Links should be included in the text of each of the subsections. Any concerns, let's discuss. Thanks KConWiki (talk) 11:41, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
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"entrance of the underworld"
[edit]"Although Charon embarks now one group now another, some souls he grimly turns away." ? this sentence does not make sense.
The Doors of Death
[edit]Are (were?) those an actual thing? I've never seen them in any myths – I always thought that was something that Rick Riordan created for Heroes of Olympus. Can someone either provide an "actual" source, or else cut it out?
For reference, it's under the section on Thanatos (which could also use some general enlargement). — Preceding unsigned comment added by HackneyedTrope (talk • contribs) 19:47, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- After a while of searching, I can't find any reference to them in any academic context. They seem to be an invention of Rick Riordan. I will remove the reference to them until any concrete evidence can be found. ViolaCola (talk) 00:30, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. Paul August ☎ 19:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
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commonly referred to as Hades
[edit]Erebus? Xx236 (talk) 11:39, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Zagreus sourcing
[edit]Currently the page only reads "Zagreus was considered by some ancient authors as an underworld god." which is insufficiently specific. 'By whom' notation added. Will come back and flesh it out myself when I have some time to do so. I think it's worth specifying if he's going to be listed here at all, because his status is questionable. Msjuliamir (talk) 21:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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